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1943/2 P Jefferson Nickel?

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You be the judge. I compared the 1942 date and the serif's of the 2. Versus that which can be seen lightly in this image. I know that rule of thumb dictates that if you have to look for something then it probably isn't there. However this is a worn circulated coin, but I do see distinct traces of a 2 imposed under the 3 and raised slightly off the rest of the coin. It does not match the examples I've seen exactly, however I do not have a Cherry Pickers Guide to compare to, so perhaps I can get some opinions.

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Here's another image from a different angle with different reflections.

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Drav3n, although I cannot see your imageshack images at work, here is my 1943/2-P DDO Jefferson, the key diagnostic is the diagonal upward "hook" on the lower serif of the "3"

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On first glance I don't think it is, because the line at the end of the "3" looks more vertical as oppose to slanted right. Looks like a little deterioration or shifting of the 3. Don't take my word for it though, could be wrong.
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 Posted 06/03/2013  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollSeeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, it doesn't look quite right to be the 3/2 variety.
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I don't see any lower bar of the 2. I am not to familiar with this Variety so I wont guess about the coin.
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It appears as though the lower hook of the "2" serif, has either been eroded away due to PMD, or was not included. I was judging by the ghostly appearance of a (2) imposed under the 3. Plus the separation of the upper hook of the 3. Appears to be 2 different #'s the 3 portion is of course flattened due to PMD, however there is separation on the upper 3. Which mimics the upper hook of a 2. Either way, I'm not too concerned, as even if this was a 1943/2 in the condition it is in, it wouldn't be worth more than 10$ anyway. I do appreciate all the input and advice though!
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Drav3n, please explain how you feel that the angled part of the two, which is clearly visible on a 43/2 variety, would erode away due to what you call PMD? The area I am referring to is protected by the 4 and the 3. Therefore I feel that those two devices would wear more than where the 2 would be located. The variety in question also shows doubling on LIBERTY, yet you have only provided photos of the date. Many people here on CCF are willing to help, but you have got to help us help you.
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The OP coin is just a VLDS die coin. Not a doubled die. Sorry
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not the over date
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Not to be critical, but it is not an overdate. This is a doubled die. It was hubbed with a 1942 hub and a 1943 hub. The overdates happened in the 19th century when they put the individual digits onto the dies. Some dies were reused with a different date instead of creating a new die. On the 20th century they hubbed the dies with a whole hub in tact. So it is not technically an over date.
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Correct. What you are seeing on the OP coin is extreme die wear or AKA VLDS. The mushy die is making die flow in the areas you are looking at. Sorry

Not an over date, but a doubled die.
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