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Does Anyone Know If These Coins Are Fake Or Genuine?

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Famous Athenian Owl Coin - AOE

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Tyre Shekel

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The condition of the second coin tells me it is real. Ptolemaic silver (not my area of expertise) The first one appears to be a small sized hemidrachm ? The photo is NG But the coin appears to to be the real deal. A better photo and some specs would help ! Diameter and size in millimeters
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that's all I have info till now. I know they are both silver.
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Second coin Id call real - no body makes broken fakes.

First coin is too fuzzy to tell.
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Good point. How much do you think the coin is worth? I am a beginner in coins..
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As Ben pointed out the Tetradrachm is broken which puts a serious dent in the retail price. My guess would be a 20. Without the specs on the first we do not know the denomination which means quite a bit doesn't it ! Some denominations are rare in themselves. A better photo would help determine if it is real but without a firsthand exam it is impossible to be sure.
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I think it was bitten by the fish.

"...go to the sea and cast a hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou has opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them [the temple tax collectors] for me and thee." Since the tax was one half shekel per man the coin would have to be a shekel to pay the tax for both Jesus and Peter. Matthew 17:24-27
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I am not very good at dating these pieces but I believe this one to predate the biblical narrative by perhaps a century. From our perspective it seems rather close. But WWI was the same distance from today and most people think of it as being in the distant past. Someone here can give you a 'year' but I feel sure it is pre Roman era.
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$20? Id pay more than that for it. I mean, in this condition you're unlikely to find many serious collectors who'd want it and the condition would bug the non-collecting Christian buyer, but I dont mind broken coins. I wouldnt guess how much its worth tough.

One worrying thing is that I havent found an example dated LG yet. I'll keep looking.
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On second thought it may actually be closer to the era in question. I am not good at dating these but it might at least fall in the lifetime of the 'Galilean' which is what I assume you are hoping ! Someone else can tell you more than I .
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Shouldn't there be more of a date on the right field of the reverse? I don't know much about Tyre shekels but an LG date would put it at 125/4 wouldn't it? I thought L was just a designator of the date since "L" was Lambda in the greek alphabet which had a different character
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I think it is 50-70 BC not sure though.
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Other issues beginning with L and with similar placement/size/font are all around 100BC, so I think this ones pretty early.
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L = means year.

"G" Gamma = yr 3. So... 126 BC = 3 yrs is 123/2 BC. A very early Tyre Shekel. I'd say you would be good at around $ 150 - $ 200 (high end)for the non serious collector.
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btw, the head is that of Melkarth = Tyrian god (Hercules)
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mmm thank you Ancientnoob for the info, but I didn't get how the date is computed :S
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