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I've looked at this Morgan and I don't really see any doubling with the exception of maybe the zero. With that being said I've found what I believe to be a die clash on the reverse as well as other markers that do appear in vamworld. I'm having trouble tying it all together, any help is much appreciated. Also what grade would you assign it and would it make a good candidate for a TPG?     Thank you! |
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Vam-5a is what you have and it looks like an AU-55. If you are collecting the 1880 P coins get it slabbed by ANACS. If the goal is to sell it I would tell you it would be a waste of money to send it to a TPG. |
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I'm thinking VAM-5A looks like a possibility. I think I see the clashed n near the neck on your coin. As for the reverse, the clash line from the eagles wing to the n is normal. The denticle impressions I would guess are "bag" marks. The other line is interesting...
edited to add, Russ beat me to the post..
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06/09/2013 8:35 pm
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I'm thinking VAM-5A looks like a possibility. I think I see the clashed n near the neck on your coin. As for the reverse, the clash line from the eagles wing to the n is normal. The denticle impressions I would guess are "bag" marks. The other line is interesting... Thanks Russ and Dave... Dave, the second line, I don't see any reference to it at all, is this just a variation then? |
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I'm not sure. My best guess would be a bag mark, but hey, you never know. Is the reverse rotated?
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I'm not sure. My best guess would be a bag mark, but hey, you never know. Is the reverse rotated? I'll have to go back and recheck for die rotation. If you look at the last picture, the 2nd line actually goes down into the eagles wings. So I'm not sure it's a bag mark. Curious to be sure though. I'll look at the coin again tonight and let you know about the die rotation. |
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I agree with others. Send it to ANACS and ask if they can offer explanation on how that denticle shaped bag mark tucked in between highpoint without damaging the surrounding devices.
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It may be a candidate to be sent to Leroy. I'd like to see what Ddave has to say about this one.
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I see the stuff around IN GOD as PMD. As far as what foreign object is responsible for the mark I am not sure. But I can think of nothing on any Morgan dollar die that match's that impression. I think it come down to the old adage....If your looking for something and it's "not where you are looking"  Then it Somewhere else!  |
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I'm not sure. My best guess would be a bag mark, but hey, you never know. Is the reverse rotated? Hey Dave, I took a look tonight and I would say the die is not rotated. Seems pretty spot on as far as that is concerned. I too hope SsuperDdave chimes in... |
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Yeah, After thinking about it a little more, the second line couldn't be a neck clash line due to rotation. It would put the center point of rotation in the eagle's right wing not the center of the coin. I would still like to hear Ddave's thought on this.
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The bag mark is just a bag mark and the extra line is just a scratch. I think it has a chance at UNC details, they might just lower the grade to AU55 rather than giving it the details grade but it is not worth having graded unless you want it in the holder just for your collection.
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I've seen similar bagmarks on Morgans before; it's not a denticle clash or anything of the sort. As strong as it is, you *might* be able to sense it dragging a fingernail across it. Should be deepest at the fattest part; I think it's the result of a reeding hit at an angle. The scratch is just that. Were it a die artifact, the wing wouldn't be involved, and you can see where metal has been displaced to the southeast in the field.
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Thanks SsuperDdave.. Always appreciate your insight.
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