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Sander Pillar of the Community Netherlands 561 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 03:59 am Yesterday I picked up the big cardboard box I "won" from a liquidation sale.. (coin/stamp store) I placed my bids online, and didn't exactly know what to expect in the lot.. Some really nice things showed up.. Also a nice box with 5 Byzantine coins.. These are out of my comfort zone, so I thought maybe nice to show them at CCF.. Here is the first.. Report this Post to the Staff

ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 06:49 am DISCLAIMER: I am a complete noob with Byzantines but I'm sure someone else will be along shortly to help out. What an interesting coin! Looks like it was overstruck/doublestruck? It may be from the reign of John I (969-976 AD), Basil II, or Constantine VIII, all of whom issued coins with obverses similar to your coin. I didn't scrutinize the reverses. Maybe this will get you in the right ballpark though. Compare it to this coin of Basil II: from wildwinds.com: Quote: CNG Sale: Triton VIII, Lot: 1435. Closing Date: Jan 10, 2005. ANONYMOUS. Time of Basil II. 976-1025 AD. Æ Follis (13.06 gm, 6h). Constantinople mint. Estimate $300 Sold For $400 ANONYMOUS. Time of Basil II. 976-1025 AD. Æ Follis (13.06 gm, 6h). Constantinople mint. +EMMA NOVHL, IC XC across field, facing bust of Christ, nimbate, raising hand in benediction, holding Gospels; nimbus with two pellets in arms of cross / +IhSUS XRISTUS bASILEU bASILE in four lines; pellet above. DOC III A2.4; SB 1813. EF, jade green patina. ($300) Or this one from Constantine VIII: also from wildwinds.com, Quote: Sale: CNG 61, Lot: 2282. Closing Date: Sep 25, 2002. ANONYMOUS. BID Estimate $500 ANONYMOUS. Issues attributed to the period of Constantine VIII, circa 1020-1030 AD. Æ Follis (10.61 gm). Class A2. Uncertain mint, possibly Thessalonica. Facing bust of nimbate Christ, pellets in the arms of nimbus, wearing pallium and colobium, holding the Gospels in both hands / +IhSUS/ XRISTUS/bASILEU/bASILE, in four lines; arabesques above and below. DOC III pt. 2, A2.24.21 (different dies); SB 1818. Choice EF, dark green patina. ($500) A very similar type in comparable condition realized $650 in Classical Numimatic Group, Auction 53 (15 March 2000), lot 1872. The obverse of the present coin is as choice as they come, and the reverse is only slightly off-center.Copyright © CNG 2002 Used by permission of Classical Numismatic Group, http://www.cngcoins.com. Lot sold for $600, plus buyers fees. Edited by ThisIsFun 06/13/2013 07:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sander Pillar of the Community Netherlands 561 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 07:46 am Thanks for the reply.. Coming week I have no time to do research for these interesting coins.. But the week after that , plenty.. Hopefully I sell some of the other stuff for a good price so I can keep this nice batch of Byzantines.. I had a deal with my girlfriend, that I would sell the stuff until I hit the 'break-even' point.. There is also a box with 6 nice looking Roman coins.. Some of the things I sell for sure, are colorized coins from North Korea, Palau and Malawi... Really don't like that kind of coins.. Here's number 2 Report this Post to the Staff
ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 08:12 am Coin #2, this Michael IV is similar... not exact. (from wildwinds.com) I'm just browsing through wildwinds and google images, learning as I go... Quote: Class C Follis Attributed to Michael IV Obv: EMMANOVHA - Facing bust of Jesus Christ, holding nimbus cross and gospel Rev: IC-XC/ NI-KA - Short cross divides inscription into four equal parts Byzantine Empire AD 1034-1041 = SEAR Byzantine Coinage and Values (1987), #1825, page 377 (F $15 - VF $33), 13.80 g. Courtesy of beastcoins.com, Sept. 2009 Edited by ThisIsFun 06/13/2013 08:13 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sander Pillar of the Community Netherlands 561 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 10:06 am The last 3.. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 11:16 am The next coin is a half follis of Justinian I regnal year 23, with NI below the K for Nicomedia mint. It is Sear # 203. The next one is a half follis of what appears to be the emperor Phocas from the Constantinople mint officina A. Sear #642 The last one is a follis of Justin II and Sophia from the Constantinople mint officinal B. Sear # 360 Very nice group of coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Sander Pillar of the Community Netherlands 561 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 1:20 pm Thanks echizento! The 2nd one look to be struck twice.. Or over struck? This is al new for me, but I rotated the image.. and in my imagination I see another 'christ' figure.. Report this Post to the Staff
ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 1:31 pm Looks like an overstrike to me. From a Harlan J. Berk "Byzantine Coins" auction catalog, December 7, 1989 (thanks, Ancientnoob!): "By the start of the 7th century AD such parsimonious practices as overstriking old coins instead of making new flans was becoming commonplace." Whether it is value+, value-, or neutral... no idea. I think it's a pretty cool coin though! Edited by ThisIsFun 06/13/2013 1:38 pm Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4973 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 1:42 pm those are some interesting byzantines! Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 06/13/2013 2:01 pm It was a common practice back than to see coins struck over an older coin. Report this Post to the Staff
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