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 Posted 07/03/2013  10:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I had no intention of going down the republican route, but I won this today because it just asked me to!

Any ideas?



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 Posted 07/03/2013  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
got a larger pic of obvesere (i assme obverse)?
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 Posted 07/03/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry it was a bit dinky

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 Posted 07/03/2013  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm waiting for our experts here to ID this coin. I like the coin, just not sure what it is.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its 20mm and 4.9g
I liked the prow!
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 Posted 07/03/2013  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is a....

Republic, Rome, AE-Triens, AE 20. 5.96 gr. Before 215-212 BC.

Head of Minerva right, four dots above
Prow right, ROMA above, four dots below.

Sear 1033. Crawford 41/7b; Sydenham 103. Crawford_047[7]
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 Posted 07/03/2013  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks noobs. My oldest coin! I like the silver republics but not the prices.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea I also want to note because of the condition, we are unsure about the exact variation because the "dots" under the reverse prow, are worn away. Its still a great old coin, and certainly older than any Roman I own.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will see how it cleans up. I probably won't do too much to it, just in case I ruin it! If more details become apparant I will post pics, but it is going to take a good while.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Early Republic AE's tend to be rather rough. They usually are well circulated and in 'choice' condition command some serious prices. I only recently acquired my first Republican As and it is in similar condition. But at 31 grams it has a certain appeal !
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 Posted 07/03/2013  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This cost me £5.51 plus £2.00 postage, so I am pretty happy.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The large "S" on both sides, to the left of the portrait and above the prow, indicates this is a semis, not a triens. I'd suggest this type is a good match.

The problem is, If I'm correct, yours is way too light.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Despite the fact that this piece looks 'iffy' and without any reference at the time of purchase,
for seven pounds, I would have bought it! The price would have been OK.
I would have bought this piece under those conditions, and taken the risk.

I have taken up great interest in the identification of fake ancient coins over the last couple of years or so.
Unfortunately, my learning curve is still steep.
Fortunately, I have some professional numistmatist friends who have had over three decades experience in the identification of fake ancient coins. It is great to have that sort of backup.

So, for me, if this sort of item turned out to be a fake, I would have kept it, and it would have found it's way onto my 'black' collection.
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 Posted 07/03/2013  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "S" to the right of the prow means "semis" (it is not a triens).
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 Posted 07/03/2013  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed you are right it is not a triens, but now it is underweight....ugh oh!
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Fvrvis just to be clear, it is not 31g but 4.9g according to seller.

It would be nice if it turns out to be real, but if it is a fake, I didn't lose too much and I won't shed any tears! Certainly won't return it!!
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