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COA Number - Low COA Number Vs Good Series Of Numbers

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 Posted 07/08/2013  4:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is probably more of personal taste than anything, but for those who look at COA numbers, do you prefer a COA with a low number or a COA with a string of good numbers.

I ask because I recently purchased two of the same coin, one to be gifted to a friend. One has a low-ish COA number in the 6000 range out of 30,000. The other is a very high COA number 28000 range out of 30,000. The latter seems to be a good string (28188).

Which would you keep?
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 Posted 07/08/2013  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need to say - I love the numbers
But do not mind them on the COA (only in case if the coin kept in original case with COA).

I'll answer that way:
Low COA seems to be interesting in general, but not in your case. IMO - 6000 - this is not "low", even comparable to 30.000 .

But the second, looks attractive, by being HIGH COA, close to the end of the mintage. (I do not count triple "8" separated by "1") .
So the second more interesting.

Another thing:
If it is your real friend - give him the best, it is only COA, but he could be pleasantly surprised.
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 Posted 07/08/2013  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cookiecutter,

In this case as with most others I don't think the COA number has any special significance.

I believe the COA's are chosen at random when the coins are shipped, so it does not mean that a coin with a lower number was minted before a coin with a higher number.

Of course, I could be wrong...
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unless you have the first number or the last number I don't think there really is much difference, in between those..I am sure however there are the one-offs, like the last penny rolls..
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Some numbers are considered lucky or unlucky by some cultures. I don't remember which are which but a quick Google search should tell you. I had 1 or 2 buyers care enough to confirm the COA # before they bought but most don't. I agree with @silveroid that the low number isn't low enough to matter. Only #'s < 1000 would count for a series of 30,000.
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 Posted 07/08/2013  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, that will be really freak, but

The '3' is considered as "very good number" for Christians and for sure - close religions like Judaism and Muslim

Take a look at this:

COA # 28188:
28188 : 2+8+1+8+8 = 27, and 27 is 3 in power of 3 or : 3*3*3 = 27

For the COA lovers - this will be interesting
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Hi all - thanks so much for the suggestions and comments about the COA numbers.

For some reason I was thinking the 6000 COA number was worth keeping simply because it was lower than the 28188 number. But since it's so high, the 20,000+ number seems to be a more interesting one.

I know that for some coins (like the penny rolls) numbers matter. For the most part, I don't pay much attention to the COA number. I just liked the way the 28188 number rolled off my tongue and I thought it was interesting.
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 Posted 07/09/2013  06:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add petestuff2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the same subject of COA numbers.
I recently notice that I have some COA over 19700 of a 20000 coin. But what is interesting is that the 2012 reports says that they have sold 18200 of those coins!

Is this the kind of information that could increase the value?
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the certificates are not given out in the order of the coins being sold. So it is not uncommon to have certificate number higher than the stated mintage of a certain coin.
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 Posted 07/09/2013  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certain numbers matter to certain collectors based on cultural or collectible. I don't care for specific numbers nor would I pay a premium for one.
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I recently notice that I have some COA over 19700 of a 20000 coin. But what is interesting is that the 2012 reports says that they have sold 18200 of those coins!

Is this the kind of information that could increase the value?


Very unlikely to have any added value. I have many coins with COAs higher than the published mintage. It just supports that idea that COAs are issued randomly and are in no way related to production order.

I recently got one that is #123. (i.e. meaningless)

Some people attribute meaning to the numbers. I don't get it but then again I don't believe in UFOs, psychics, or bigfoot. But some people do.
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Bit far to put the average joe that prefers one number over another to bigfoot die-hards.
COA numbers for coin collectors seems like the serial numbers is for paper-money collectors. There's always a crowd willing to pay a bit extra for a neat string of numbers.

Personally, unless it's #1 of or the last one, only numbers with significant personal meaning will, well, have meaning. For example, I bought a kilo silver coin the month my wife and I got married in hopes to one day flip it and coin's COA number happens to be the date we got married. Needless to say, that coin is now tucked away in the do-not-sell bin
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Quick question here... how much of a premium would one place on COA #1? I acquired a somewhat desirable coin with COA #1 this week, and while I don't plan on reselling it, I'm wondering "how much" of a premium it could command?

The coin is a gold issue, from a popular recent series.
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The coin is a gold issue, from a popular recent series.


I think, you better specify, what is the coin, please.
I, for example, do not collect the gold coins, and do not recall any popular gold coin series.

Is it 2013 Gold Superman?
Although, #1 COA doesn't really add the value, but people would like probably to pay more for it....couple of hundreds maybe?
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 Posted 12/27/2015  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You will get some premium for # 1 on almost any series, even the gold kilo.
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I think, you better specify, what is the coin, please.
I, for example, do not collect the gold coins, and do not recall any popular gold coin series.

Is it 2013 Gold Superman?
Although, #1 COA doesn't really add the value, but people would like probably to pay more for it....couple of hundreds maybe?


I wish it were the 2013 Gold Superman! Not that lucky, although I have a few "non #1" 2013 golds in the collection!

The coin I just purchased was the Superman 2015 gold coin (Superman #4 - 1940). The coin was offered by Colonial Acres in their Boxing Day blowout sale: http://www.colonialacres.com/produc...-coin-146354

I've never had COA #1 on any coin, so when the opportunity came up to purchase this coin, I jumped (despite recently paying "below issue" for a couple of these gold coins). I know COA #1 might not mean anything to a few collectors, but the novelty appealed to me. After all, who else can claim that they have certificate #1 on this series?!

I figured that if the novelty aspect of the certificate ever waned on my end, I could simply resell it down the line. The big question is - how much of a premium would this coin fetch in the open market in the "long term"?
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