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A Question For Eisenhower Dollar Enthusiasts...

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I have a question and a clarification on the San Francisco Mint Clad variety of Eisenhower dollars. I have found reliable documentation of:
1973-S Clad
1976-S Clad (Type 1 and Type 2)
1977-S Clad
1978-S Clad

The question(s).... are there 1971-S and 1972-S Clads?

Are the '71 and '72 "S" mints available in 40% Silver Uncirculated (Blue Ike) and 40% Silver Proof (Brown Ike) only for those two years?

Caveat: My confusion comes from searching ebay for Ike's. I've noticed that numerous ad's are just evasive, wrong, or confusing. I've recently had to return some coins from different sellers because they're sending clads insead of 40% silver and uncirculated instead of proofs. I'm sorry if this is perceived as a 'dumb' question by the more enlightened... I'd rather be dumb asking a question than stupid wondering.
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Technically, the 40% silver coins are clad as well.

(Cladding: 80% silver, 20% copper. Core: 79% copper, 21% silver)

What you meant to ask is are there any 1971-S and 1972-S copper-nickel clad Eisenhower dollars, to which the answer is no.

http://www.coincommunity.com/us_dol...senhower.asp

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The Blue and Brown Ikes are available through 76. 77 was the first year without them.

71 and 72 didnt have an S series that wasnt silver.

Definitely not a dumb question, ebay is a complete mess with all the different types of Ikes.
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Ahso.... thanks guys. This is not as bad as the maddening VAM for Morgan's (but CLOSE!) This is really helpful.

When I said "Clad" I did mean copper-nickel as identified by the silver over copper rim. Tell me if this is correct... The 40%'s are technically clad, but they have a solid silver rim... right? So, I should not see a '71S or '72S with a copper-silver rim.
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The 40%'s are technically clad, but they have a solid silver rim... right?
The answer is maybe. The 40% silver clad edged appears to be solid because of the core's lighter gray colour and the "bleeding" that occurs when the blanks are stamped.

My experience is that core on uncircualted coins is difficult to see, but the core is often detectable on circulated coins (from natural toning of copper).
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This is not as bad as the maddening VAM for Morgan's (but CLOSE!)



Those are very hard to determine. I try to get help on those as often as possible.
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Many people have a hard time identifying all the metal varietys and mint marks of the Ikes, and confusion is understandable! The mint did not make it easy.

Blue Ikes, Brown Ikes, Clads, Bicentennial sets, etc. It got confusing from '73 out because you had three S-mint coins in addition to the regular P & D coins. Sounds like you've got it right though.
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Just to add my Two Cents worth

For 71 and 72, if there is a "S" mint mark, then the coin is 40% silver.
And will be either proof or BU.
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Thanks guys... I just got another reminder to be careful on ebay yesterday. I got home to find that my beautiful "DCAM Gem++++ 1974S Silver Proof (Brown Ike)" that turns out to be a (quite beautiful) 1974S Copper-Nickel Clad. Oh well... some days you're the bug; some days you're the windshield.
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The Blue and Brown Ikes are available through 76.

Blue and brown Ikes are 1971 through 1974 only.

Except for a few rare errors
ALL P and D Ikes are CuNi clad
ALL Business strike quality S mint coins are 40% silver
All 71 S and 72 S proofs are 40% silver
ALL 1976 S Type II, 1977 S, and 1978 S proofs are CuNi clad
Proof 1973 S, 74 S, and 76 Type I S ikes come in both CuNi clad and 40% silver
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07/11/2013 11:30 am
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Thanks Conder... that's great info!
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To expand on what Conder said, there are known '71-S in CuNi. Thought to be prototype strikes.
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Blue and brown Ikes are 1971 through 1974 only.


Youre right, its not factually correct calling the 76 silvers blue and brown ikes.
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