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I have an 1833 Hesse-Cassel two(2) Heller German coin, can't find a thing in the world coins book 5th edition. does anyone have any info on this coin, such as the current values for Fine, Very Fine and Extra Fine? Have also looked the Austrian area and nothing. It has the same exact markings as the 1814 Hesse-Cassel 2 Heller, KM-561 and 1816, 1818 & 1820 KM-564.....Not a thing for 1833. Thx, Mike
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For 1833 Hesse-Cassel 2 hellar it should have Wk monogram and would be Km#589
It is hard to tell without a picture it could be a spiel mark or a jetton too
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Scoutjim99, thanks for your info. I have the 5th Edition of World Coins and there is no KM-589 showing for this coin. It has what you describe and looks exactly just like the 1814 in the book. But this is an 1833. Which book, edition and page are you finding this info? Here are two photos of the coin. Thx, Mike Image:  2heller-a.jpg32.08 KB Image: 2heller-b.jpg34.07 KB Edited by dutch4
05/27/2007 9:47 pm
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I have seen Krause books leave out a coin or 2 here and there. I'd check the 4th edition.
Sap should be along shortly to answer this riddle.
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graceoutcast, Hello, I did just that and it's not in that book either....appreciate the help though....did you see the pics? Mike
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I saw the pics but I don't know enough about the various city states of the 1800's And I don't have the 1800's book so I can't be of much help. And I'm serious...if Sap can't give you a clear answer with a complete history lesson then I'll melt down all my coins and build me a new car.  |
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graceoutcast, can I help with building the car? LOL LOL Am really curious about this coin, bought a 500 foreign coin batch on ebay and really, really lucked out...this is the only coin I can't find in the books I have.....Mike |
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Wow! Those are my favorite kind of auctions! Hodgepodge! We love pictures here so when ya find a cool coin we wanna see it! I bought over 1000 different coins from an old guy on ebay for about $225 and it took be about 2 months to go thru and catalog and card the ones I needed for my collection. |
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These that I got valued way up over 700.00 and I paid 228.00 including the shipping. A lot of BU and UNC throughout.
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My catalogue is the standard catalogue of German coins By Krause 1601-Present
2nd edition Page 421 the difference is the 1814 the WK has 1 ring at base of W where as the 1844 as well as the 1831 Has 2 rings at the base W.
here are the prices listed.
Fine=$2.00
Very Fine=$5.00
XF=$15.00
Unc=$ 85.00
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05/27/2007 10:38 pm
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Dang it Jim now I have to melt down my coins and build a car!
Wait you didn't tell the coins history and life story...I'm in the clear.
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Oops Also it is Km#589 No mintage was given
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Ok, appeciate the info....the newer books by Krause don't contain this info, I have the 5th and access to the 4th and neither contain info on this coin. I did post photos of the coin for you to checkout, we are talking about the same coin, aren't we? graceoutcast, you have start building that car....and I am ready to help and supervise...LOL LOL
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yes that is the exact same coin as far as I can tell
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Sorry I'm late... had a busy weekend.
As has been suggested, this is another example of later edition Krauses deleting coins which used to be present in earlier editions. It seems to have happened a lot back when they split the all-in-one volume into separate centuries.
I just checked on NumisMaster and this coin is completely gone from their database.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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it was only a 2 year type coin, that may have had something to do with it
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Posted 05/27/2007 9:45 pm
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