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1943 Copper Penny?

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 Posted 07/15/2013  2:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add alviah to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please forgive me if I am in the wrong forum, I am new to this. My brother found a 1943 copper penny, we presume it anyways, and he has taken it to 2 different places. One was a jeweler who also is a collector and the other one was a coin shop. He has gotten 2 different answer's so I thought I would try and find out more from some of you. The penny is definitely copper, no magnet sticks to it, but the coin shop said he couldn't verify it because of it's weight. This would be such a blessing for him but I'm not going to get my hopes up. Thanks in advance...


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 Posted 07/15/2013  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add reupman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the 3 was a 2 sorry
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 Posted 07/15/2013  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alviah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really? We really thought he had something! My brother loves metal detecting and he dug this up around an old house that's about ready to fall down. He didn't get through circulation, he had actually dug it up so we thought it might be the real thing. Well, thank you, now to tell him!
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 Posted 07/15/2013  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hold on. This is interesting. The " liberty" is questionable to me with the, IBE.
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 Posted 07/15/2013  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Here is a link to a real copper 1943 http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...erCents.html
Yours looks like the 3 is fake but I am no pro so hang on to it for now and do more research. Put it in a 2x2 holder to protect it.
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 Posted 07/15/2013  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slowaltima to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see what looks like doubling on the IBER. The 3 looks questionable though. It does look like it could be a modified 2.
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 Posted 07/15/2013  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alviah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all. I guess we will try and get another opinion. The coin shop said that they couldn't verify if the date had been altered or not and that it was very rare for a 1943 to have been double struck. They were more concerned about the weight.
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Your best bet is to try to find out which '43 DDO matches up with that doubling on LIBERTY. A counterfeiter is probably not going to reproduce a minor variety like that. Good luck!
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the coin shop said he couldn't verify it because of it's weight

What did it weigh?
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 Posted 07/15/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alviah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin dealer said it should weigh 3.11g but it weighed 3.9
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Wow 3.9 is way way over. No chance it's a copper planchet. Could be struck on a foreign planchet, you'll want to look into what other planchets went through the mint in '43 and see if anything matches up.
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If the scale is accurate, that's way off. There's something iffy about it--we should see pictures of the whole coin, obverse and reverse.
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 Posted 07/15/2013  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alviah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have more pics but not sure how to put them on here.
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 Posted 07/15/2013  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've taken the date from a certified 1943 bronze cent and put it against the OP's coin. It looks to me the "3" in the date is a different shape.

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In my opinion, this is a fabricated counterfeit.

Note the double rim and the weakness of the devices (especially around the wheat stalks and LIBERTY). This coupled with a weight of almost 4 grams and how the date is formed makes it nearly impossible to be genuine.

My condolences. :-(

On the "brighter side," it is a *nice* counterfeit. :-)
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I noticed the 4 on the date has a serif tail that's not there on the questionable coin, the other fonts I notice in the reverse "UNITED STATE" seem to be rather crude, the 2 S's in STATE don't match up against the one shown Lincoln Cent Resource site.
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