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1919 Large Penny - Canada - Please Grade

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 Posted 07/17/2013  11:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Retired07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,
Total newbie here. Please provide comments about the grade/value of this penny. Although there are two substantial nicks in the rim, I can also see a nice rainbow effect (depending on the light)on the crown and shoulders of the obverse side.

Thank you for your assistance.

1919-Large-Penny---Canada---Please-Grade

1919-Large-Penny---Canada---Please-Grade

1919-Large-Penny---Canada---Please-Grade
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Canada
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 Posted 07/17/2013  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, and welcome!
I'm not an authority in grading, and I'm a relatively new collector. But I'm a big fan of large cents, and trying to develop a sense for grading them.
I'm thinking it might fall into the low end of E.F.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be fine, but it's damaged... almost looks to have been scraped along the road or something.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
.. To the Forum....

Good to have you with us, regarding your coin.. looks F-15 to me may have been cleaned at some point.

Enjoy your stay with us.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


F12, definitely cleaned......and harshly by the looks of the obverse.
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07/17/2013 3:41 pm
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 Posted 07/17/2013  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/17/2013  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking VF-20.
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 Posted 07/17/2013  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F12 damaged,less than a buck.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/17/2013  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
top grade might get you a VF 20 , but its for an F15 with road rash,
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 Posted 07/17/2013  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned with a bristle brush?--nice reverse, but not relevant--its the obverse that counts.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse has been cleaned just as harshly. The lighting in the picture doesn't show it very well but look closely and you can see lines all over the reverse.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Retired07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow - tough crowd with very high standards. Seriously, THANK YOU to everyone for taking the time to reply. I have already learned so much! I suspect that the grading of coins took a giant leap forward once digital photography became the norm. I still have trouble seeing the identified flaws noted by the commenters with the naked eye. What do you fine folks do at coin shows - walk around with giant magnifiers?

Thanks again!
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 Posted 07/18/2013  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Wow - tough crowd with very high standards.


Aww... we are not so tough, just trying to help other collectors out.

Don't be shy about what others say, keep posting your coins and, we'll do our best to help you.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Wow - tough crowd with very high standards.


As stated above, we are all just trying to help. I was in your same shoes not that long ago. Without some experienced folk giving straight up opinions I would never have learned a thing. Learning to grade is very important, especially if you plan on continuing in this hobby/obsession. Keep posting your coins to see what others will grade them as. This will help you with grading coins yourself.

www.coinsandcanada.com has a section on coin grading, this should also help you know what to look for. Maybe pick up a grading book as well.....

Cheers
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 Posted 07/28/2013  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hairygorilla to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be VF-20 at the most. It probaly would of been EF-40 if it weren't so chipped and scratched.
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 Posted 07/28/2013  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gorilla - are you saying that ignoring the damage, and based on the wear alone, you would grade this EF-40?

Ignoring the damage, I would call it F-12 or F-15, by Canadian standards. With the damage, it's still F-12 or F-15, but the damage brings the value down to that of probably a VG-8 or lower.
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