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Thoughts On Genuine Or Fake?

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I came close to buying this one, but the denticles scare me (not even) and the top right of the coin gives me that little "poured" bump appearance. Even if genuine the two cuts on the profile would probably drop it from gradable. Thoughts? Observations? Paleoguy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/29094432340....m1438.l2648
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 Posted 07/21/2013  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it's just the photo, but the centering appears poor.
With wear on the rim, the denticles do merge, but I'm not at all sure that the wear one the rest of the piece is consistent. But I'm no judge!
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Looks ok to me. I'm no morgan expert but all seems within normal standards.
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It looks like there's rust on the obverse and its overall filthiness would preclude me from buying this coin. It's just one dirty piece with no eye appeal. You can find a cleaner, but not cleaned, looking 1889-CC for the about the same amount of money and it will more enjoyable to look at.

Ed
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 Posted 07/21/2013  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't touch one of these without a top TPG holder.......Then I would examine the holder very carefully.....
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Those 'little "poured" (raised) bumps' in the stars don't get me much excited about this piece, either.
For me, the stakes are just too high to make a bid.
I would need to see such a piece 'in hand' for close examination, ring tone and weighing for my commitment to buy.
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 Posted 07/21/2013  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint mark position does not match any known reverse die. Even if the coin is (stretch) authentic, the mint mark is not.
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I agree with you completely Dave. I couldn't find a match on the die pair either. PG
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I'm a total Morgan noob, but are those reddish areas on high points of wear? Is it plating wearing off a copper core?
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I am with DVCollector, it would be nice is someboby here could comment on his querys.
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 Posted 07/22/2013  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll be glad to comment on his query. The discoloration on the coin appears to be a stain of some sort or paint, not a substrata coming through... I just sent the seller an "ooops" message that his coin in all probability is not genuine and he might want to take it down. His statement in the listing that it had "been in his Morgan album for 30 years" doesn't bode well as to integrity, but who knows.... I just know I ain't buying it!
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Aye, there's not enough to condemn this outright with a big bold red flag, but I would avoid it. Something isn't quite right.
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I don't see Morgan's M on the ribbon. My guess is not the real deal.
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I don't see Morgan's M on the ribbon.
About half of the M is visible and what is missing does not look like it was worn off naturally.

Ed
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 Posted 07/23/2013  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pheroow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rust destroys its beauty, but that is just me.
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