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Is My Lighting Too Harsh?

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 Posted 07/30/2013  01:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shane7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am just getting into coin photography. I have a Canon powershot SX160 IS. I have been reading Numismatic Photography by Mark Goodman so I have adjust my camera some (white balance, bumped up the exposure compensation, ISO100, and set the macro mode to stay on). I have a table with two lamps. I ordered a copy stand but it isn't in yet. The lamps have 550 lumens CFL type bulbs in them. They are about 8 inches above the table to the right and left of my focus area.

Here is the coin I photographed. It doesn't look this bad in hand so I am wondering if it is my lighting or something I haven't set on the camera yet. On the full slabbed picture, I didn't seem to be able to capture any details.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



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Taking pictures of a coin in a slab is difficult anyway. Try taking a picture of a raw coin first to tryout the techniques first. Once you are satisfied with raw, then tweak your settings a little for slabbed coins

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The lights are at too low an angle. Notice that the highlights (brightest areas) are on the edges of the devices. If you turned the brightness way down, you'd see just a bright outline of the devices. This is the opposite of what you are looking for, which is shadows around the devices rather than highlights. Can you bring your lights up at a higher angle to the coin? Not necessarily higher distance, but higher angle.
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 Posted 07/30/2013  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shane7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I adjusted the lighting. I then retook the Kennedy pic and did a raw Morgan. Let me know what you think.

Thanks


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The lighting angle is better, especially on the Morgan. I suspect the camera is a bit farther from the coin on the Morgan, and the coin is a bigger, so the angle is a bit higher. Higher on the Kennedy would help further.

Overall you are a bit overexposed. Are you using auto exposure with compensation? I would suggest using aperture priority mode, f5.6 or f6.7 (even f8 for the Morgan), and then go even further negative with compensation. What is you compensation setting for the Morgan?

The highlights are pretty extreme on the Kennedy. Since it's a proof, other techniques such as ring lighting or axial lighting may give you a better result. Higher (angle) lights will help, and you may need to do some diffusion to reduce the hotspotting. The Morgan doesn't appear to need any further diffusion.

You're on the right track!

edited to add...the Kennedy exposure may be OK with a bit of diffusion. The overexposure I am seeing is mostly on the Morgan...
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I don't know all the terms but here is what I have set for both coins.

I have it set on P mode (program auto exposure) I added two clicks to the exposure. My camera showed 2/3 when I did that. I have it on iso100. To get the lights over the coins, I had to move the camera above them. I tried a little bit of telephoto to get closer but too close and it gets blurry. I have the macro mode turned on.

I think I probably need better lights. I have read a little on diffusion but definitely haven't touched on it.

As you can easily tell, I am very much a beginner. I am playing with the pictures as I read through my book to help me get a better understanding of exactly what I am doing. I am only through 3 chapters so I am glad, at this point, that you can even tell it is a coin.

I really appreciate the advise and will continue to play with it and post as I improve. Thanks and let me know what else I can do.
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Shane...you're setting exposure positive rather than negative, so that explains the over exposure. You should be at -1/3 or -2/3. I'd recommend going to A mode and setting your aperture to f/8 to start. That will keep your camera from messing with your aperture for every shot. Other than that, just get your camera as far from the coin as you can while still being able to focus properly, make your lights as high angle as you can make them, and practice!...Ray
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