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Replacement Of People On Our Coins

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Lincoln has been on the cent 104 years - he should be replaced for the sake of something new. Jefferson has been on the nickel 75 years - he should be replaced. Washington has been on the quarter 81 years - he should be replaced. Do you all agree with me? We would put fellas such as Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, Wilson, and et cetera on CIRCULATING COINS.
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 Posted 08/01/2013  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not me I like what we got ...if you put em on any coins I think they should be on commemorative coins. Just my opinion.
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I guess it depends on what your aims for the coins are. If you were to ask Americans who the best presidents were they'd probably say Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt. Some might say Reagan if they are of his persuasion.

But why do you want someone on your coins? Is it for historical interest? I'd say Garfield or Pierce or someone no one really knows might make people pay more attention. Is it for popularity that you have people on? Is it for political points, try and get your guy on the coins?

Once you're decided what you want your coins to be, then you can decide who should be on them.
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I am of the belief we should remove people from the coins and go back to symbology.
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Well, without the likes of Washington, Jefferson and Franklin would we even have a country or still be a British colony?

Government schools are working diligently to remove and rewrite our history, to minimize the Founding Fathers and to present the United States as one of the world's biggest problems instead of focusing on all the good the US has done for the world.

No, keep the great men who risk their lives, their fortunes and their scared honor to bring the world the greatest democratic republic of free men history has ever known on our money, on our minds and in our history. (insert flag waving icon)

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It is going to be difficult for the U.S. Mint to replace traditional effigies on the coins, without a lot of controversy. The U.S. Public in my opinion, are a bit too traditional and conservative to accept otherwise.
Most Americans are as proud of their Country as they are of their coinage. Tradition is strong.

If effigies do change, allegorical figures will have to be used, not real persons (other than those now depicted). That is why Liberty and Eagles so often appear.

Allegorical figures of Trade, Science, Industry, Defence, Agriculture, Art, etc., could be used on definitive coinage, but the artistic level would have to be extremely high. They would most probably have to reflect the Neo Classic nature of America's classic coins. That would be a bit of a bind to those who would like to see art to be more progressive, and in so doing, others would object.

The artistic scope for NCLT and commemorative issued coinage is much wider.
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I am of the belief we should remove people from the coins and go back to symbology.
Agreed.

There is no way we can replace the current people with new people. Our nation is too politically polarized. There will always be people who think that the current iamges are irreplaceable. The only way to minimize the controversy is using an image that represents both sides of the political divide, that is, Liberty.
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Good point jbuck. But I think the people on our coins now COMPLETELY deserve to be on there for as long as time allows.
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If the mint REPLACES the current people,
I think there would be so much uproar.
Is Lincoln not deserving to stay on the cent?
If the mint want to honor others, make commemoratives or introduce a 2 cent
piece or something.
Simply don't replace the current
president portrayed.
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If we were to have a comprehensive reform of the coinage, I would like to see a return to the impression emblematic of liberty, with an inscription of the word Liberty, and the year of the coinage ; and upon the reverse... the figure or representation of an eagle, with this inscription, "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA", according to the Act of April 2, 1792.

Since 1909 we have allowed certain specific people to represent Liberty, because of their historical roles ; Lincoln, who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, first of all, then Washington, who not only fought for independence but resigned his commission when the war was over ; but I for one would prefer a return to the allegories. Gasparro tried to do that with the small-size dollar, but instead we got a portrait which looks like it would bite your thumb off. And, as Ron Landis complained to me, then we got Sacagawea, who could (wrap your head around this) reasonably be called a slave!
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Isn't it funny that we "honor" people by putting them on coins when they wouldn't have wanted it that way.
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But I think the people on our coins now COMPLETELY deserve to be on there for as long as time allows.
Maybe so, but there are most definitely others who are just as deserving. Adams (both John and Samuel), Franklin (one can argue he was and still is more deserving than Kennedy), Hancock, Madison, Monroe, Paine, and more. We have a lot of great people, but only so many denominations and no easy way to decide the greatest. Sure, we can just continue with the status quo, but this topic is about replacement.


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Isn't it funny that we "honor" people by putting them on coins when they wouldn't have wanted it that way.
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This forum topic really attracted some attention - I agree with Jbuck about putting lesser known founding fathers such as Paine, Adams, and Franklin on a new series of coins. I also agree with Doug58 about going back to symbology - sel69 further delved into this idea with detail.

I've just gotten sick of the same old people on our coinage.
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Well, without the likes of Washington, Jefferson and Franklin would we even have a country or still be a British colony?

At least then your coinage designs would change every so often! (currently using the fourth portrait of Elizabeth II since 1953: there are six total that I've seen)

The line of Canadian bank-notes from the reign of George VI are worth mentioning in this context. Each had an "allegory" for something related to the Canadian economy, drawn up like ornate Greek gods. This ranged from "Security" (a woman holding a baby) on the denomination that needed it most ($1,000) to "Radio Broadcasting" (If I remember right, a handsome shirtless Mercury-ish guy speaking into a microphone) on the $50. There was also Electricity, Trade, etc... I'm sure this could at least be expanded into a line of different facets of Liberty/freedom on American coinage (but only the wholesome ones that don't make people angry on the Internet). They could even be related to the deeds of the president who used to be featured on that denomination, with the exception of the Native American dollar series (which I really like, and which don't feature presidents anyway).
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I agree with those who say we should go back to a "Liberty" ideal instead of continuing to put Presidents and prominent Americans on the coins. It smacks of Imperialism how we do it now. We need something that inspires us on our coins, like we had with the flowing hair dollar and the Walking Liberty half. Creativity and innovation in coin design came to a grinding halt when we got the idea to put real people on there...and leave them on there, apparently. Modern coinage really bores me for this reason.
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I agree with skyshark124. Liberty designs would make us look less like imperialists.
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