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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I am still living with my parents, rent free but I pay for everything else (besides food, utilities, etc..) I'm confused as to what "everything else" is. It would seem like all your basic expenses are paid for except automotive. With a scenario like that & a halfway decent job it shouldn't be any problem to save 50% or more of everything you make.
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Valued Member
 United States
239 Posts |
Well you have phone bill, medical bills, my credit card, car insurance, then you have expenses like clothing, personal care, etc. It adds up. Maybe some of you older folks forgot, but people my age are usually piss poor eating ramen noodles 3x a day living in an overcrowded house full of careless roommates.
I know it doesn't seem like much, but I bring in roughly 400 - 600 a week (however my job is never truly consistent) after bills I am left with roughly 200 - 300, I usually try to put $100 or so into my savings acct and do my best to let it sit in there and the other $100 - $200 I basically spend on lunch, cigarettes, gas and other expenses.
I am not very frugal, I know this. Just trying to be semi - smart with the little bit of money I get WHILE I am living rent free. I wish I would of started this when I was a lot younger, but I feel like everybody says this.
So I think what I will do is I have 4 more oz coming in, I might pack it up and have my mother hide it somewhere from me. I think A) It will be better for me to not see it whenever I want. This might stop my urge from wanting to buy more B) I will be less tempted on selling anything I have on a spur of the moment basis. C) I might be lucky enough to "forget" about it and then suddenly remember I have it when I feel broke.
Lol even though I know I wont forget about it, even as a kid I used to take my money and hide it in old pants pockets, jackets, trying to forget its there only to stumble upon it later. I wonder if I ever lost any money donating my old clothes as a kid lol
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Valued Member
 United States
239 Posts |
Ya I had a good amount of medical expenses that I just kinda got done paying for. I think I have like $300 to go out of $4900 so that is something most people my age don't really have to worry about.
Credit Card was maxed out from 18 - 20. Paid off, then I used it again and maxed it basically for a root canal that I absolutely needed. That's just been paid off this last month. (But now I have to worry about a stupid crown or cap or w/e thats gonna cost me another $1300)
People think that if you live rent free, you should do nothing but save save save. In an ideal world, yeah thats what should be done but when you have bills coming in every month I had no other real choice.
Edited by Jenger 08/02/2013 11:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2335 Posts |
I turned 52 this week so I guess that qualifies me as older. I still remember being in college, which I paid for myself, sharing a shack that had a hole in the bathroom floor you could fall into if you weren't careful. No car so I walked everywhere I went & peanut butter sandwhiches was lunch, & lots of times dinner, for years. No AC, & in the winter we got by with electric blankets, a fireplace & scrounged wood, & running the hot water in the bathroom for 5 minutes with the door closed before we took showers because we couldn't afford gas for heat.
I'll admit that once I got a job & had steady money coming in I lived in a slightly better dump & spent all my money on beer & women. It wasn't until I hit 29 that I realized I was on the road to nowhere & changed my ways. At least you are trying to do something at 24.
Here's a little free advice that's probably worth what you paid for it. You should sit down & figure out exactly where your money is going. There are plenty of people in my neck of the woods that support entire families on $400-600 a week.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Here's a little free advice that's probably worth what you paid for it. You should sit down & figure out exactly where your money is going. There are plenty of people in my neck of the woods that support entire families on $400-600 a week. I read that too and was going to reply but didn't want to tip my hand to much, but I totally agree. I have no clue where you live, but $600 a week is what, like $22 an hour after taxes there abouts. But the main point is that you are doing something. Everyone you talk to will always give you the same advice, I wish I had started earlier. So while it may not be ideal to have your assets distributed the way they are now, at least you have some assets and some savings. I know way to many people who live pay check to pay check (or pay day loan to pay day loan  ). Not dumb people or poor people either.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1554 Posts |
No! Do what you want to do. Why would you need to ask us?
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Valued Member
 United States
239 Posts |
Asking for some opinions is all... In the end I absolutely have the power to do what I want, but id like to do the smart thing.
I live in good old new jersey where car insurance for me in a 95 4cyl pickup is $1500 a year, and rent for a 500sq ft studio is $1100 a month.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1554 Posts |
Nobody really knows the "smart thing". Do as you wish.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3789 Posts |
I would completely ignore 1893.
Here is why-
You can spare yourself a lot of mistakes and speed up the learning process by absorbing the experince of others. Those who ignore the lessons and experince shared by others end up like a road that has a big yellow sign that says "Dead End". Dont be a dead end.
Save your money, start now and work on your credit. I am no where as old as several of these posters on this list but I know that after your mid 20s the days fly by and time moves on.
You haven gotten a lot of great advice that is pretty much in the same vein and thread. Don't fall for the old "do what you wish". You can avoid all the mistakes, errors and misjudgments because others have already done them, or even if they have not made any errors in judgment, they have already been in your exact same shoes at one point, so they know what works best.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1454 Posts |
It depends. I once spent over 5K for a last-minute trip to Tahiti when I didn't have much more than that to my name. I'd just gotten out of the military and was on my way to college in the fall. If I'd stuck that money in IBM stock, I'd probably have enough today from that single investment to buy a small rental property or a convertible BMW. Looking back on it, I suppose it could have been considered a foolish and immature thing to do, depending on one's point of view. I spent a blissful week of my life on an all-expense-paid luxury cruise ship schmoozing with the rich and famous (well, the rich, anyway). And I have to say it was one of the best, most enjoyable, and memorable weeks of my life. This part of it was simply blind luck but I actually made connections on that trip that helped me get a decent job right out of college that I otherwise would have never been able to get on my own. Granted, all work and no play is certainly the recipe for a practical and potentially profitable existence. If life is a gamble, that's definitely the smart play. After flitting away my 20's, I battened down the hatches and became more frugal and overly-calculating later in life and now lead a fairly comfortable existence with few great needs or worries (other than my health). But I'll never forget the... um, interesting times I had while being irresponsible and compassless in my younger years. I certainly don't regret those early decisions; quite the opposite. Gotta remember there's more than one path up the mountain. Some simply require longer ropes, and sturdy ladders, and good fitting crampons. But then again, you were only asking about buying a few ounces of precious metals...
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Ya I had a good amount of medical expenses that I just kinda got done paying for. Thats really one of the biggest reasons most people advocate to save. Retirement is nice and all but the real reason for a savings account is life happens. You never know what the next day will bring or when youll need it but having it there when something happens makes the horrible experience a little bit better and a little less stressful. Im actually not that much older than you and have had a REALLY bad two year medical run from a knee surgery gone bad. Luckily I had been saving for a long time though otherwise I would have been selling things to try and pay for the medical bills and insurance. I know exactly where youre coming from and if you look at it in a big picture way its just flat out depressing. For me its a lot better if you break it down and set goals looking at it once step at a time. Once you get that first step done you move onto the next and one day youll realize youre almost done with it all or have gotten out of the worst of it. You just have to remember it takes time and you wont significantly change the situation over night. Depending on how much free time you have you could try and find some part time jobs or some odd jobs to increase the income and speed up the process if you want. If you need to hide the coins to keep from being tempted I would do that, the other thing you could do is use them for motivation. If you find something you really want and have the time use it as motivation to find some part time or temporary work to get the funds to get it without interrupting your savings plan. Quote: You can spare yourself a lot of mistakes and speed up the learning process by absorbing the experince of others. Those who ignore the lessons and experince shared by others end up like a road that has a big yellow sign that says "Dead End". Dont be a dead end. Agreed. In the end its your decision and theres nothing wrong with customizing advice to fit your life better, but to pretend like no one knows anything and you have nothing to learn from the experience of others is a great way to make a lot of bad decisions. Life is all about learning from experiences and if you can use some others experience to avoid some mistakes then youll be better off. Mistakes are only a mistake if you dont learn from them.
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Valued Member
United States
456 Posts |
Jenger, you said yourself that you've had to pay down a large amount of medical expenses and a maxed out credit card. Once these are paid off, why can't you take the same amounts you were paying for these bills and use them to pay yourself? In the amount of time you paid off that $5K in medical expenses, you can save that much by simply making the same payment to your bank account instead of an insurance company. It just comes down to discipline and making it a priority. If you pay expenses, live your life, and then try to save with what's left over, you will probably find there isn't a whole lot left each month. However, if you pay yourself at the same time you pay your bills, you can then enjoy what's left guilt free knowing you're doing what you can to save.
What worked for me was this: The day I started my job, I set up two direct deposits. A fraction of my paycheck went into account 1 and the rest went into account 2. Account 1 was my savings account that was completely separate -- a different bank entirely -- from account 2. My thought was if it was out of sight it would be out of mind. I quickly adapted to living off of what 'was left' in account 2. The reason I made it a percentage rather than a specific amount, is that if/when I get a raise, the amount that goes into savings increases automatically and I never miss what I didn't have to begin with. That way, after I pay expenses with account 2, anything left is money I can spend/invest guilt free knowing I've already taken care of myself.
I agree with most of what's been said throughout this thread. It's important to save, but you have to live your life too. Just make sure the expenses are worthwhile.
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Valued Member
United States
140 Posts |
I am 28 years old, been in U.S. Army 10 years and sit at about $199,000.00 in debt. I have a 2 year old brand new home that I rent out, then I also have to pay rent where I live now, due to me being in Military. I also have about 10K in credit Card debt and about 34K in auto loans. I can retire out of the U.S. Army in 9 years 11 months with full benefits. I still spend around 200-300 dollars a month on coins. Sometimes I buy American Silver Eagles, sometimes I buy low grade Morgan silver dollars, then sometimes I buy a good MS-64 or higher coin. I look at it like this... 1. You only live once. Why have all this money in savings and eat Ramen Noodles because your scared of what "could" happen. I also have a 2 year old son who I plan on leaving all of my collection to. I haven't decided when I want to stop collecting. I am currently almost done filling up a complete dansco ASE collection, as well as a Morgan dollar Date Collection. After I fill both of those albums, I don't know what I will collect or build up on next. All I know if that each time I feel like I am not making progress or my savings account looks low, I can punch in my safe combo and look at my coins, and gun collection, and being in Military I know I can't get fired or lose my job. Do what you want to do in life, spend your money the way you want to spend it. Everything will work itself out in the long run.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1554 Posts |
Well, sorry YUP, but I'm a firm believer in the "school of hard knocks". And as far as your comment "I would completely ignore 1893" I take offence. You do not know anymore what's right for the OP than I do! When I was young I used to listen and do what others told me and it ended poorly. I lost big time in the 90's with Mutual Funds after being advised by a well known MF company that I couldn't go wrong. Since then I listen mainly to myself and consequently am happy and doing quite well. Take every ones advice with a grain of salt. Do what you like!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
Countless people who followed the "Do what you like" creed as a lifestyle have ended up bankrupt, doing long stretches in prison, developing terminal lung cancer from a lifetime of smoking and terminal cirrhosis from a lifetime of heavy drinking, getting Hep C or becoming HIV+ from IV drug use, contracting every known form of STD, etc,etc,etc ad infinitum.
Less uninsightful advice would be "Do what you choose after putting a lot of thought and planning into your course of action and be prepared to accept and deal with the consequences that your actions will bring your way."
"Do what ya wanna do" and "If it feels good, do it" went out along with the end of the hippie era 35 years ago.
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