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2011 Silver Rabbit - Could Have Fooled Me

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 Posted 08/08/2013  11:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chubbycheeks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Check this out http://www.ebay.com/itm/17109182305....m1423.l2649

So I messaged the seller asking questions on the coin. I've been noticing lunar coins from overseas are very cheap compared to the price sold by sellers here in North America.

I was told that the coin was minted from the RCM but was made for the release in the Asian market. It is not proof finished and is of a specimen quality. Which leaves me wondering how many rabbit coins were really minted? It also opens up a whole bunch of other questions.
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 Posted 08/08/2013  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are you saying these coins are fake?
I also noticed that recently there are many cheap lotus rabbit coins on ebay. Sellers are usually from China, and the photos are usually blurry, or just RCM stock photo. But I do see these sellers got a good rating from buyers of these coins, some buyers are from Canada as well. So what is really going on? Is it just a case of overseas flippers selling below market price because they overstocked, or after fake Panda they have moved on to making fake lotus rabbit?
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 Posted 08/08/2013  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chubbycheeks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the seller was honest about the coin. He had great ratings and I don't believe he is trying to deceive anyone. He just told me It's a Chinese release from the RCM with a slightly different finish, hence the low price.

I don't have the coin in hand so I cant really say weather fakes are going around.

Everything looks the same in the picture but as you can see its blurry. I'm wondering if there are two different series being released from the mint. I hope its not a fake, because I'm sure no one wants to be tricked like that.
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 Posted 08/08/2013  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if you look at another thread on counterfeiting, there is fake silver maple leafs, duck coins, all kinds of Canadian and us key dates for around 3.00 each shipped from China. This coin maybe the same scenario, why take a chance?
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 Posted 08/08/2013  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I think can add some piece info:

I've seen on ebay, same Lotus coins, similar package, but the coins had additional gilded "ring", since they lotus-shaped it not really the ring. And the COA stated that it was Asian version (do not remember, I think for Singapore).

So, I assuming, that several versions for different markets were issued.

But in your example -
on the photo it appears as "Proof".
The seller says it is UNC?
High possibility that UNC for A$99.00 is the fake.

If you searching for it - this one has a good chance to be sold for good price (not mine listing):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-15-Lum...em3cd435c544

Or do the offer for this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/35081776699....m1438.l2649




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 Posted 08/08/2013  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw one bid ending yesterday. $78 + shipping for this rabbit coin from jandm store. What a deal.

https://goccf.com/t/155448
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 Posted 08/09/2013  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksimms3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much would a round zodiac tiger go for? I have one just I dont think I will be completing the series.
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 Posted 08/09/2013  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've ever only heard of official RCM Asian release of the lotus with fancier packaging or modified after market with gold ring. There is nothing to suggest that the RCM minted one with a different finish altogether.
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 Posted 08/09/2013  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with poboxw.

Will stay away from those listing.
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 Posted 08/12/2013  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hoop130 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I was lucky to get that rabbit from JandM. I still couldn't believe there was no other bidders.
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 Posted 08/12/2013  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which coin is from J&M? Could not find the link.

Edit:

I found the coin. The reason it went so low a price is no COA.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Silver...em2a2fa3c750
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08/12/2013 04:21 am
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 Posted 08/12/2013  03:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Minhsun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like fake to me
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 Posted 08/12/2013  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hoop130 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, I did not notice that no COA was included, at least there's a 14 day return policy.
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 Posted 08/12/2013  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ya. The actual images look so fake. Don't know if it is because of the photo taking technique or it is real fake.

Meh... If I was a bidder a saw these images, I will not place a bid.

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 Posted 08/12/2013  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this Rabbit coin fake? Only $135 and free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...torid=229466

It is from China.
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08/12/2013 9:51 pm
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 Posted 08/12/2013  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw some local listings for this coin around $140-$160 before. I will pay a little $10 - $20 bucks more to guarantee I get a real coin. At least I can see it and feel it in hand before I take it.

My 2-cents
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