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Need Help With ID On Two Islamic Coins

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I had these two small coins for a number of years without really knowing much about then. The best ID I was able to come up with was that they are 10th century Ghaznavid. Can anyone provide a better ID?

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10 mm
one is .5 grams the other .7 grams



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Interesting coins echizento, but unfortunately I know nothing about them. Maybe Anoob will know something about them?
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man, I don't know there.
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Silver Dhamas of the Habbarid Amirs of Sind. I couldnt tell you which, I dont read such scripts. They're 870-1009AD, I believe.
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Hum... Islamic coins... It's a huge series minted for 1400 years in many regions. The script on the coins looks similar in style to the calligraphy on Ummayad coins. I believe JCMworld or Sap might know more. Unfortunately my computer is down and my phone can be difficult to do research on.
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They could also be something from the Sind region of India, unfortunately I can't read any thing more then the word Amir (I think).
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i asked for some aid from some of the world coin guys, maybe they can help us out.
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Well it looks like these guys are going to remain a mystery for awhile longer.
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I dont reckon you'll get much closer than what I put - they're pretty worn down. But perhaps the world coins people can glean the rulers name.
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Thanks, Ben
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Really, really tiny coins like this, that resemble Umayyad or Abbasid dirhams but they're only about a quarter of the size, typically come from the Habbarid Amirs of Sind, an early Indian dynasty. This is a well studied yet still poorly understood series; we have a list of names as they appear on the coins but all records of this dynasty seem to have been destroyed by subsequent dynasties. The coins are one of the few surviving evidences of their existence and the coins are undated, so we don't even know in which order the Amirs reigned or how many different rulers of the same name there might have been. The catalogues list them alphabetically, rather than chronologically.
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Interesting, thanks for the info.
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These look like coins of the Amirs of Sind.Please check with Goron and Goenka
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