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2002 Year Of The Outback 50 Cents

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What would you grade this coin at?



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Stunning LOL
Nah, like Rob said else where FDC SP 68/69 for sure.
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Stunning LOL
Nah, like Rob said else where FDC SP 68/69 for sure.


These Wedding set specimen coins are SOOOO hard to take a pic of due to the super high finish on them.
These and the mint set coins are chalk and cheese IMHO
I have ALL the wedding specimen sets 2002-2009 after which they went to frosted proof sets.
All these coins have a superior strike and are just about flawless and are the ONLY way to get super high grade coins for these years.
I love em
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Yes they are very nice Jim.I have thought about the wedding sets but am
currently buying up selected mint sets
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Yes they are very nice Jim.I have thought about the wedding sets but am
currently buying up selected mint sets

I think if you got one of these sets you wouldn't be able to help yourself and you would end up getting them all
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trout, I've seen a pic of the area you live. The pieces you show are a screamin' contrast!
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trout, I've seen a pic of the area you live. The pieces you show are a screamin' contrast!


HeHe Nothing like hiding your light under a bushel
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I suspect that the wedding sets were struck with preferentially fresh dies.
That would explain the FDC (Fleur de Coin), otherwise known as MS70.
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I suspect that the wedding sets were struck with preferentially fresh dies.
That would explain the FDC (Fleur de Coin), otherwise known as MS70.


I am unsure of how these wedding set coins are produced But I know for certain that if you place one of these alongside a coin fresh out of a mint set the difference is immediately apparent

I agree with the fresh die idea, There may be more pressure applied during the strike also.
As there is also NO bagging whatsoever on these coins I tend to think they have been treated with the same respect and care a proof coin receives.
Anyway at the end of the day these coins are eminently a far superior coin to the business strike coins
The average mintage each year for these is only about 3000 units , That tends to lean towards these being a "Specimen" issue.
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That would explain the FDC (Fleur de Coin), otherwise known as MS70.


In practice, FDC is almost never MS70.

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From what I've read the only real difference between a Proof & a Specimen is in the planchet preparation,with a proof coin they dip it in an acid bath before striking,they don't do the acid bath for specimen.
I did post a link to the article a while ago but can't find it right now.
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In practice, FDC is almost never MS70.


especially with the 50 cent coins where the "Third Side" comes into play
However by submitting a wedding set coin to a TPG your chances of getting the MS70 grade are vastly improved against any other source of coins
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My suspicion again: With proof coins, the planchets are fed into the press and extracted one by one, with gloved hands. My suspicion is that the wedding set coins are treated in the same way, and that explains why there is no damage on the coins, including bag marks.
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My suspicion again: With proof coins, the planchets are fed into the press and extracted one by one, with gloved hands. My suspicion is that the wedding set coins are treated in the same way, and that explains why there is no damage on the coins, including bag marks.


I think you hit the nail squarely on the head there Sel
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