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Buying Coins From South Africa

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 Posted 08/19/2013  1:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add airpilot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all

I would like to buy one or two South African gold proof sets which are not easily purchased in the UK. Can anyone suggest the best way to do this?
I have a couple of South African friends who travel between SA and UK quite a lot,can they purchase and bring them to the uk as travellers? Or do I need to purchase first and then ask them to bring ?
Also any ideas of a good dealer in SA?
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I have friends in South Africa who have brought back coins for me, but nothing of this sort of value though. I've seen SA gold sets for sale in the departure lounge at Johannesburg international airport, so they must expect people to buy them and export them...
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When shipping coins from one country to another, there are two things to consider: the export laws of the country of origin, and the import laws of the destination country. You need to make sure you comply with both.

In this case, as far as I am aware, there are no restrictions on exporting coins from South Africa.

For British import, the thing you have to worry about most is import tax. As I interpret the current regulations, items you yourself have bought and own you can import with you when you travel, tax-free, up to a value of £390. If your coins are valued at more than this, you'll have to declare them on arrival and pay an import duty: 2.5% of the value of the item, plus VAT. Note that if you're paying someone else to be courier for you, that's considered a commercial arrangement, not personal, so they can't claim the £390 tax-free threshold on your behalf; they'll have to declare and pay tax, no matter the value.
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My only claim to fame is a 1952 gold S.A. Pound of George V1. Very few gold coins have George V1's effigy.
Also have a 'jeweler's copy of a gold Sammy Marks 'Tickey', in 22ct gold. It is 25% overweight, even for a gold piece.
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I am pretty well informed on the UK side of the regs, gold investment coins are VAT exempt in the UK and they are listed in HMRC notice 701/702a.
I have imported gold coins from Canada and the US without any problems but never SA.
Does anyone have experience with SA dealers?
For some reason modern proof coins and sets from example USA,Canada and SA are very difficult to purchase in the UK,one or two dealers sell them but with massive mark ups on the true gold value, 200% is not uncommon. It is just better to buy them from the source country for a respectable price !!
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Well according to the South African Mints web site they don't sell directly to the public but only through a dealer network. The dealers in the network can be found here
http://www.samint.co.za/Internation...dealers.aspx

And the markup of 200% over the gold value may not be that much of a mark up from the dealer. Most of it may be from the Mint itself. The mark up from the British Royal Mint is pretty high as well. You aren't going to able to buy gold from your local mint at close to melt either.
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Thanks For the info. I will try one or two of these dealers in SA and see what they say, otherwise my friend will bring me a set next time she is in SA.
I have been offered a set by an online SA dealer at a good price including shipping, but not sure about the company ?
Yes The Royal Mint's prices are very high, I only buy silver from them, the gold prices are just too high.
Bearing in mind I collect relatively modern coins 1990 - date the highest premium over spot that I have paid so far is 30%, and that was for low mintage proof coins.
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