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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I could give it a dip myself, or send it in for conservation. What sort of outcome might I expect either way? Not mine . . . . yet. Just trying to understand what I might do with it if I pick it up. I am not averse to toned coins, but this is a face only a mother could love. Am I wrong?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I disagree with the grading system in this case, because the MS65 will not reflect the real value of this coin. If you dip it send to a TPG, you may be luck enough to get "MS65, details", Or you may be unlucky enough to get it back ungraded. If you dip it, I feel certain that it's eye appeal will improve, but I am uncertain that it's value will improve. None of my 2,000 odd coins are slabbed, and I grade all of my own. In the case of this coin, if I would get some professional opinion and clean it myself, with scant regard to the impact on value, despite the large value stake involved. If I were to clean it, I would certainly give it a lot of thought, and practice on lower valued coins first. At this point, I would reserve my judgement with the option to 'cop out' and not clean it. I would do my homework first, then commit to a decision. |
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 United States
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That one's not worth the $300+ it *should* take you to get into a PCGS MS65. The toning won't come off without ruining the coin's value.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2805 Posts |
Unload it on ebay to someone who'll value the plastic more than the coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
4208 Posts |
I agree, unload. If I had it, I would. If it was ungraded, id probably go sandblast if I had the option (I dont).
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
723 Posts |
That's my question. Will the ugly come off? Without ruining the value?
So far I am hearing "Heck No".
Another question is raised though . . . . . this piece is indeed in a PCGS MS65 holder. The goal of the TPGs (one of them at least) is to enable "sight unseen" evaluation and purchase of coins. Right?
Wow, someone would be disappointed in this case.
Let me re-iterate, I do not own this coin. My question runs more toward the academic "what if" I were to purchase it, could it be saved?
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United States
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My question runs more toward the academic "what if" I were to purchase it, could it be saved? I sincerely doubt it. Only a dip would help, and I think the spotting is too dark for a safe dip to ameliorate; if you don't get it all, what you did would be obvious. OTOH, if PCGS graded it looking exactly as it does here, I would be tempted to think that there was a true MS66 hiding under the color, because it's definitely a detriment to the absolute grade. So I have to wonder if it turned in the slab - slabs aren't airtight and just as susceptible as raw coins to improper storage conditions. Honestly, if I had the kind of money it would take and no worries about throwing it away, I'd be tempted to see how badly I could screw it up.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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On this particular coin, it seems that great minds think alike!
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United States
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It is not worth the risk, so sell it and buy the coin you want.
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United States
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It is not worth the risk, so sell it and buy the coin you want. Quote:
Let me re-iterate, I do not own this coin. My question runs more toward the academic "what if" I were to purchase it, could it be saved?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
723 Posts |
If the crud would come off, and if there actually is a "66" under there somewhere . . . . . that is two very big "ifs".
A "65" trends at $400 or so.
A "66" trends at $700 or so.
The other "if" would be if it would even grade after a brutal dipping.
Maybe if I could get it for a couple hundred bucks, but I do not have any "throwaway" cash!!
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United States
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D'oh...  It is not worth the risk, so sell avoid it and buy the coin you want.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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D'oh...
It is not worth the risk, so sell avoid it and buy the coin you want. But how much fun would that be? |
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United States
23522 Posts |
If I had the money to burn, I'd already own the coin and have an electrolysis setup ready to see what can be done about the problem. Fortunately, I'm poor. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
723 Posts |
Never considered electrolysis . . . . . . I know they do shipwreck coins that way. My understanding though is that electrolysis would remove METAL.
On that note, what would NCS do with this one?
I will go ahead and rule out the sandblasting that I reference in the title . . . . .
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United States
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I don't know *what* NCS would do for technique if they actually accepted it; they play their methods very close to the vest.
Electrolysis should just decompose the silver sulfide bond in favor of the more receptive aluminum, leaving unchanged original silver behind. No silver is removed. I've never tried it, though.
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