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Alright guys and gals, I have quite a bit of new pieces to go through so I here is one I am exceptionally happy with, and had the opportunity to purchase...(for cheap)

Quick background: In the late 5th and early 6th century the nomadic tribes cumulatively called the Huns nearly brought the mighty Sassanid Persian Empire to its knees. The tribe known as the Hephthalites had taken the Prince Kavad hostage and held him for ransom from the then Shah Peroz. Peroz paid many donkey loads of coins for Kavad's safe return. Peroz being a 'hands on' king of Shah, was killed in battle and his army destroyed by the much smaller Hephthalite force. For centuries these Hephthalites would rule Central Asia from the Caucuses to The Indus, and even penetrate India.

Remember those donkey loads of Sassanid coins? Well those coins would we circulated, recirculated, revalued, imitated and copied for the next 1000 years.

This coin one of only a handful of examples comes from the Western portion of India, struck between 550-600 AD.

Hephthalites
Peroz Imitation c. 550-600 AD
AR Drachm 23.5 mm x 4.11g
Pre-Saurashtran Series
Obverse:Bust with Winged skull cap.
Reverse:Corrupt Pahlavi letters fire altar with attendants.
ref: Mitchiner 64
Note: Oober Rare!!
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08/19/2013 10:50 pm
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 Posted 08/19/2013  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without the history I wouldn't have known this was something special. Now I know. Thanks, and congrats!
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 Posted 08/19/2013  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I try to get special coins, I never claim to get 'nice' coins.
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 Posted 08/19/2013  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The historical background brings the coin to life, as usual an excellent coin my friend.
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That is really cool. when I first looked at the obverse I thought that mark in the center was a nose :) do you know how many are know?
and which are considered reproductions that are real? you said it was minted after that and revalued?
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 Posted 08/19/2013  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice, another cool coin.....looks familiar (sassanid theme) but still haven't seen one quite like it.

how'd you get all these cool coins? did one of those donkeys get lost and make it to your house?
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 Posted 08/19/2013  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad you like it..I make it my goal to give those who have been stricken from the historical record a voice, and a second life. Very little history survives of the cultures and various peoples who once inhabited Asia.

I can not give you specific numbers of coins but there was a single small hoard discovered about 15 years ago of which a portion made it to the markets and have since been dispersed.

As far as I know there never had been any modern reproduction made. The coins simply do not command the collector base or the value to fake.....yet...Although various Sassanid coins have been copied in modern times.

Many later Shah Khusro II coins were counter struck by the Hephthalites, eventually they struck there own coins at the bottom half of the 7 th century. These are often called Turko-Hepthalite coins...and this history is largely guess work.

I do not own an example of a revalued Khusro coin but I do have one of the "donkey load" host coins that birth all subsequent Hunnic coins.
Persia
Shirajan, Kerman
The Great Shah of Persia
Peroz I 457 -484 AD
AR Dirham 28.0 mm x 3.77 g
Obverse: Crowned and cuirassed bust right. Stars flanking crown. KAVAT AFZVTV right field.
Reverse: Zoroastrian Fire altar with two attendants, flanking flames. SHR mint. Blundered date.
Ref: Mitchiner ACW 973ff
ex. Garth R. Drewry Collection, ex -CNG


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I think you guys see why Persia failed to conquer the crippled Roman Empire in the late 4th and 5th century.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting pickup! Without the info I wouldn't have known how special it was either. Nice job
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 Posted 08/20/2013  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have been able to photograph almost all of my Persian Bust type coins so very soon I should be able to do a spread of Persian bust types from about 457-1300 AD encompassing about 843 years of of degrading bust styles. You can really see the Peroz/Khusro bust types decline to the point where they become quite beautiful again.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really interesting.
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I am truly surprised at the positive reception of this coin. I am also super pleased you all liked it. Keep them comments, questions or requests coming. I find these Sassanid style bustd some of the most interesting in all of antiquity.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of all it shows the pervasiveness of Persia into neighbouring countries.
Just watched a program on the Burrell Collection in Glasgow, the story of the collector of the Antiquities, William Burrell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrell_Collection
Seeing the numerous examples of terracotta "Tomb Guardians" of the Tang dynasty, with their elaborate, swirly costumes and ferocious countenances, brought to mind something I had wondered before.
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If the art of Sasanian Persia had influenced China at that time?
Some of the last, surviving, examples of Sasanian sculpture had an elaborate style.
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Certainly a lot of Sasanian nobility and their followers fled to China when most of Persia was conquered by the Caliphate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peroz_III

Aside from the Tang dynasty, on another tangent (no Pun intended) the post by "This Is Fun" on the Seljuk Dirhem of the Seljuk Sultan of Rum, Khusru II, also shows the enduring influence of the Sasanians, in central Asia where the Seljuks hailed from, hundreds of years after the fall of the house of Sasan.
https://goccf.com/t/156211

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