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 Posted 08/21/2013  7:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add exodia_patronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone, I would like to know if this lot it is real guinea 1791 (gold) or a token (brass) Do you know?
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 Posted 08/21/2013  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
your link is not correct.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very telling, methinks, that the description does not include the word "gold."
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 Posted 08/21/2013  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add exodia_patronos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
8 grams 25 diam.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the coin looks like a Great Britain Guinea KM# 609
8.35 grams, 0.9170 Gold purity, 0.2462 oz AGW

but the Crowned 4-fold spade of arms looks wrong. Not enough detail and the design is off in places.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not gold, sorry. Genuine guineas are made of 22k gold, which doesn't discolour like that even if buried for a couple of centuries.

Further, the fine detail I would expect to see just isn't there. The lions in the top right quadrant of the shield, for instance, look like little blobs... or maybe flowers. Compare the pic with pics of real guineas, like here on Wikipedia.
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 Posted 08/21/2013  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get the impression of a gilded brass token, with the gilding wearing off.
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 Posted 08/22/2013  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brass. My personal preference is not to bid on items where the bidding is private. It is too easy for the seller to "bid up" or "shill" the item with nobody seeing.
And as a seller, I've found Private listings to be counter productive too.
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 Posted 08/22/2013  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a chance it is gold.
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Hi I have gilded George III Spade Guinea Gaming Token and its 25mm. My guess is thats probably this, regards ErikP
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Thank you all!
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Thank you all!
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