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Question About The Definition Of A Cud

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 Posted 06/05/2007  8:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tcekolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok O wizardly ones,

I have a dime which has a die crack on the reverse that extend from the top of the torch, up in the left side of the letter O in OF and on up into the rim. It is nice and jagged and raised up from the surface of the dime. Unfortunately, my photographic skills aren't yet up to imaging this dime and my scanner would just make a hash of it as well, so I can't really show it to you at this time.

So my question is: do you call this a crack or a Cud or both or what?

- Tony
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 Posted 06/05/2007  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Cud will only be on the rim anything else is either a scratch or crack. look at this finished auction on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Montana-St...or_W0QQitemZ120123566036QQihZ002QQcategoryZ149687QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

that is a Cud. it is not an error and is not worth more than .25 cents. but as you see there are plenty of people buying them as errors.
Hope that answers your question
Gary too
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So, just because the rim is involved doesn't make it necessarily a Cud, but to be a Cud, it must involve the rim - yes?

- Tony
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 Posted 06/05/2007  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tmor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Cud is caused by a die crack that, over time, causes a piece of the die to break off. It appears as a raised area on the rim of the coin. It is hard to place a value on such an error, but it certainly has some sort of premium associated with it.
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 Posted 06/06/2007  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
exactly what tmor said
Gary too
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Actually Cuds are errors - they are die errors. They do carry premium value because some people collect errors and are willing to spend good money on them.

What the others said regarding Cuds is correct. They are the result of a piece of the edge of the die missing - broken off - that causes the strike to fail to hit a part of the coin leaving the unstruck planchet bare and raised. There will be no detail on a Cud area, and it will have a sharp, usually rounded edge.
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welcome back Chuck.
Gary too
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