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Magnentius Chi-Rho Damnatio Memoriae Follis

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 Posted 08/30/2013  6:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Took a bit of cleaning to recognise it. This coin came uncleaned much as it seems now. It came with a faint curve on one side and a punch mark on the other.

Only today have I realised its historic importance. This is a piece of a chi-rho follis of Magnentius. To allow the coinage to continue to circulate after his defeat, tribes in East Anglia took the folles he produces, cut them up into 2 to 4 pieces and recirculated them. Most take little precuation to obfuscate his name or face, but these guys have put a punchmark through his face to remove it!

I wonder how many of these go unspotted? this was going to go to the Unidentified chunk pot. I'm so happy I got one of these - I was going to throw down the money and buy an IDed one which very rarely, if ever, turns up on ebay. And I've never seen one with a punch mark to hide Magnentius' image before. A real damnatio!

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Magnentius-Chi-Rho-Damnatio-Memoriae-Follis

Heres the Chi-Rho reconstructed (crudely):
Magnentius-Chi-Rho-Damnatio-Memoriae-Follis

See, most people wouldnt know this kind of thing even existed and just chuck it away. Keep your eyes peeled if yuo buy UK found lots.

EDIT: thought id put an extra word on the punch - its through Magnentius' eye. Mark of evil or something. Someone had a similar thing of Nero - punch through the eye. Perhaps Masis?
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08/30/2013 6:45 pm
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Wow, well spotted Ben.
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 Posted 08/31/2013  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Ben, that Nero Billon Tetradrachm, I sold it to David "Whizb4ng".

"Barbarous" Unofficial Issues are a representation of our Roman history in Britain and are as much a part of Roman Numismatics as a finely struck Sestertius, I no longer treat them with disdain.
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 Posted 08/31/2013  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And it isn't going to leave its new home for a loooong time.
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After some deliberation, I decided to bump this three year old thread. I stumbled across it while searching for something (don't quite remember what) and filed this info in my "huh--better look out for that" mental bucket. Lo and behold:

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Magnentius-Chi-Rho-Damnatio-Memoriae-Follis

Got this one in a lot of 13 small late coins from a seller in Belgium.

The obverse is completely gone except for a very faded X... probably an old mark to remove any remaining detail of the defeated usurper and thus validate the coin.
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Finn, yours is actually a Justin I who struck pentanummi with Chi-Rho reverses. I can see the epsilon indicating the value (5 nummi) next to the Chi-Rho on the right side. The style of the Chi-Rho seems to match those on Justin's pentanummi (very small loop on the P).

(For Ben) what source(s) on this Anglian tribe theory? Not doubting or anything its simply something I've never heard of.
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08/17/2016 05:11 am
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