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Any wisdom regarding type, condition and value?   |
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It's a Tiffin token, of which there are varieties and imitations someone with more knowledge than I will have to identify. It's been polished. I'll leave the grading to someone else too. Unless a rare variety, they aren't difficult to find.
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It looks like the patina was entirely stripped off it with lemon juice or vinegar, some time ago.
Some pink copper remains.
It is slowly re patinating.
At least, this token now has some contrast in the design, which makes it easier to photograph.
G3. I am unfamiliar with the home market, and how to value them, unfortunately.
1812 was a very significant year for token production in the U.K.
Napoleon didn't do very well outside Moscow in 1812, and Tchaikovsky rubbed salt into his wounds.
Edited by sel_69l
09/02/2013 11:43 pm
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Napoleon didn't do very well outside Moscow in 1812, and Tchaikovsky rubbed salt into his wounds. He wasn't there to hear it -- for that matter, his nephew wasn't either. Edited by Arkie
09/02/2013 11:52 pm
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This token is listed in Charlton's as LC-48A1. (LC is Charlton's
abbreviation for Lower Canada). Doctor Eugene Courteau lists 27
varieties of the HALF PENNY and 14 varieties of the ONE PENNY. This
token is Courteau variety 24 which has a rarity factor on 1 (on a
scale of 1-10). The grade is Good 6.
Some diagnostics concern the number of and placement of the Cannon Balls
below the Bales; the shape and proximity of the of the Head to the stand
of the Y in PENNY; the placement of the left hand in relationship to the
Cords of the Bales; the number of types of Fruits of the Cornucopia; the
size of the Date; the length of the Legs; the number of Leaves and Acorns
in the Wreath; the number of Leaves in the Chaplet, the type and size of the
Bust; the type of Button joining the Drapery; and whether the Wreath is
Clockwise or Counter-Clockwise.
Several years ago (2004), Mr. Gregory Ingram published a most useful work
on this series.
doug
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colonialtokens - Is this the same Charlton number?   (The obverse is better in hand). Thanks, Bill |
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The most recent photo is Charlton's LC-48C2.
Charlton consolidates 4 different Doctor Courteau varieties
under the umbrella of LC-48C2.
The photo is of Doctor Courteau variety #1, having
a rarity factor of 2 (on a scale of 1-10). I would grade
the token as VF 20.
Obvious distinctions betwixt the two photos are differences
in the types and number of leaves in the wreath, the leaves
in the laurel chaplet, with and without reverse Legend.
Number and placements of the Cannon Balls below the Bales. etal.
doug
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A very interesting series!
Thank you!
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I'm so glad this subject came up when it did, otherwise I would probably marked this down as a Walthamstow type and spent months trying to get a match.
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The most recent token is identified by Charlton as LC-46A2. This is one of the genuine Tiffin tokens.
These are full weight compared to the lighter weight counterfeit Tiffins.
This token is Doctor Courteau variety 27, having a rarity factor of 2 (on a scale of 1-10).
I would grade the token as F-12.
doug
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