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Valued Member
Canada
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Ok - If eye appeal is the only thing that matters does it make a difference whether it is natural or artificial toning as long as there is no other damage?
I mean I love those painted Silver Maple Leaf Coins they are really a work of art. I can see why people may want to pay premium for those things even when they might not be natural.
I am a firm believer that pricing is determined by the market ultimately. You can have a naturally toned coin and if there are no buyers it does not matter how much people think it is worth.
On the other hand I may have an artifically toned coin and if 15 people stop by to look at it asking me where I got it its worth something.
Of course if everything is the same then natural toning would certainly be preferred.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I have a couple of beautiful (artificially) toned coins. I paid a premium for them and I am sure they will sell quite well.
The point is not how much they worth or if they are collectible or not. The point is: know what you are buying.
Just my opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Can someone please PM or e-mail me.. or include a link to a site that I could learn the difference between artificial and natural toning... I would really like to learn and have no clue at this point.
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Canada
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Valued Member
Canada
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The point is: know what you are buying. Could not agree more on that. The problem I find with numismatics is that it is often difficult to know for sure what you are buying. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Re: one sided v/s two sided toning
Although I see the principle behind the notion that natural toning mostly happens on one side does it not depend on the exposure?
I know of a few people who showcase their sterling silver coins, bars, medallions, medals etc. on one of those small coin display holders. Not even a capsule is used. I have seen enough displayed like that to make me think how it could be zero probability to have toning on two faces.
On the flip side someone bent on artificial toning can very easily create any pattern one side/two side/partial etc they wish by selective precoating the surface prior to accelerated exposure to force toning.
IMHO one needs to carefully look at each situation on their own merits.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Two obvious ways that a coin can acquire differential toning, side vs. side:
It can be left in a drawer for a number of years. The resins in the wood can affect the side in contact with the wood. I think that is the case here. Could also explain the friction / wear pattern.
A coin can be the end piece in a roll, where only one side has been exposed.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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There are a lot of variables out there....... MY 11 set has equal natural toning on both sides and that's after sitting most of it's life in the OE case with one side up....but my 5 cent piece of that set has a little less toning on the OBV.   |
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Valued Member
Canada
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 Devlec beautiful 34 half. One thing that has me  is that some of the monster toners in Canadian coins that I have seen is the cased early seventies silver dollars yet are only .500 silver content, I would have thought the higher silver content would tone more as it is more reactive. Anybody know why? |
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It is the higher copper content of those .500 cased dollars, that create some of the awesome colours in those early 1970s cased dollars. Also, 1971-1973 were not in any kind of capsule, so environmental conditions and the cases themselves all factor in.
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Edited by SPP-Ottawa
09/17/2013 8:21 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thanks priorpence...sometimes we get lucky ..and then sometimes we have good people guiding us. Way back then, I had good guidance.
Always listen closely to SPP.
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Pillar of the Community
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t_y
Your guys banter is always funny...I could imagine what it would be like after a few beers.
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Canada
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t_y is not a geologist... after a few beers, he is snoring...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I find that most proof like coins tend to tone evenly on both sides I guess that would be that the holder or container is open on both sides compared to specimen or proof coins where one side is exposed and the other covered where no air or light gets at it. my thoughts
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