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 Posted 09/16/2013  10:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello coin entusiasts,

how can you spot a dipped silver coin? can you post some pictures of the dipped coins you came across.

is ICCS grading dipped coins?

I hope I can learn something and others as well.

Thank you very much.

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 Posted 09/16/2013  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can't identify a dipped coin.

However, most brilliant white coins, if older than 50 years, in my opinion have most likely been dipped.

In the 1970's, if you were at a major Canadian coin show, anywhere in the country, you had a hard time finding a toned coin in a dealer's showcase as 'dipping' was the widely accepted practise at the time.

An overly dipped coin can easily be identified as it is dull greyish white without any lustre whatsoever, but a coin like this has been dipped at least five to ten times.

I'm of the opinion that 'dipping' is totally different from 'cleaning' (cleaning involves an abrasive action to the coin's surface that results in very noticeable hairlines, whereas dipping does not).
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09/16/2013 10:44 pm
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 Posted 09/17/2013  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very dirty and worn coins can be better off dipped, although I have treated perhaps 1 in 200 coins in this way. Dipping may improve the appearance of such coins.
Dipping certainly DOES NOT add value.

The patina of a silver coin WILL be affected and almost always, any radial mint lustre will be affected as well.

For these reasons coins with little or no wear, or those with a nice patina, should be left well alone. The value of these coins, when dipped will be less.
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 Posted 09/17/2013  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jin, dipped coins have an unnatural shiny look. I once purchased an I.C.C.S., AU-58, 1871 quarter on-line at an internet auction. The scan of the coin appeared nice and the coin appeared untouched and naturally toned.
When I received the coin, it was anything but. It had the "grandma's shiny silverware" look which I detest for near Unc coins. As a result, I never added it to my Collection and traded it for another coin.

Glenn
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 Posted 09/17/2013  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My above post stating 'you can't identify a dipped coin' applies mainly to a higher grade MS coin.

Circulated coins when dipped will have an appearance that in most cases will give them away as being dipped.

In glenzy's case (above) I'm thinking perhaps the coin was also lightly buffed or polished.
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 Posted 09/17/2013  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the older silver dollars that you see as BU have been dipped. Next to impossible to ID a "once in a lifetime" dipped dollar.

If you dip it a few times,..then you've cooked it and the frostiness and some luster will quickly fade away. To dip was almost the standard practice back in the 70's and 80's when I was collecting. Any "stashed in a drawer" dollar usually had uneven toning and bringing it back to BU was the 'often used' solution.

Now having said that, I used to go to the bank in the early 60's, lay ten dollar bill down and get 10 silver dollars and wrap each in a plastic wrap and these were never dipped.
Side by side you couldn't tell the difference with a "one time" dipped dollar.

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09/17/2013 09:35 am
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 Posted 09/17/2013  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish I could did copper cents to get the full luster back. I have quite a few MS grade georges that because are brown I will never send to ICCS for certification because they are very hard on luster even though the strike might be hard.
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 Posted 09/17/2013  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dipped coins' rims still have signs of origninal toning left before the coin was polished.
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 Posted 09/17/2013  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you all for the information
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 Posted 09/17/2013  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm of the opinion that " If its dipped then its stripped"!
It may not be noticeable but that is whats going on with the dipping process.
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 Posted 09/17/2013  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I gott'a agree with DoubleD... you dip it you strip it
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