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Counterfeit Coins Stamped Copy?

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 Posted 09/05/2013  2:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add likeason to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,
I'm not a collector, I sell on ebay. I have had a bag of silver coins in the basement for over 20 years. In laws stuff I think. I was getting ready to put some gas money together and started doing research on the most interesting one in the group. MEXICO PHILIP V PILLAR 8 REALES 1741. So I wanted to see the condition of it for me that means digital image. I sharpened the Image and COPY popped out on the crown. What kind of counterfeiter would stamp COPY on the coin?

Anyway I brought it to the experts please let me know what this is or what to do to find out?

Thanks. Dave

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 Posted 09/05/2013  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJHFL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If stamped COPY, it is not really aimed at being a counterfeit, but it is a legitimately produced Replica. Although even without the word COPY, that one is still easily recognized as a fake.

Edit: It kind of has the appearance that someone at some point was trying to make it look more like a real one, and less like a copy. I would save yourself the headache and keep that one off the 'bay.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Hiding the word COPY in the design of the crown would defeat the purpose of it being there at all as a mark of a replica. I think our eyes are just seeing something that isn't there.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whoops! I was looking at the wrong crown! That sure is the mark of a replica!
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 Posted 09/05/2013  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see it :(

I guess I should stay away from 8Rs, then.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First photo, eleven o'clock. COPY is inverted, below G * H along the rim.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spaceace to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't see it at first either. Once you see it then it becomes obvious and you wonder how you didn't see it at first.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jbuck, great eye! Had to max the view to see it.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anybody see what I saw the first time, though? On the pillar side, the four spaces in the crown design almost look like ghosts of the letters C-O-P-Y.
I think I'm just sleep-deprived.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But to answer your question...

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What kind of counterfeiter would stamp COPY on the coin?

It was made by a replica-maker wishing to comply with American law. The Hobby Protection Act requires replicas to be stamped COPY before they can be sold as replicas.
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 Posted 09/05/2013  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh.

Ohhh... :I
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 Posted 09/05/2013  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a massive amount of such copies out there. Many people use them as fillers when they know they will never get a real one. For example I have a Whitman folder that shows a 1913 Liberty Head Nickel slot. I'd almost like to find a copy of one to put in there just to show people that know coins. I've got a 1856 Flying Eagle cents with copy on it. And it's made of plastic too.
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