Septimius Severus - Obverse Die Match

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maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2100 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 6:02 pm I avidly collect the early denarii of Septimius Severus from the eastern IMP issues currently attributed to Laodicea ad Mare. The following is an insight into the obsessive nature of some of my collecting. Some weeks ago I obtained this first coin. Obv:- L SEPT SEV P[ERT AVG IMP VIII], Laureate head right Rev:- FORTA REDVC, Fortuna (Hilaritas) standing left, holding long palm in right hand, cornucopiae in left Minted in Laodicea ad Mare, A.D. 196 - 197 References:- RIC -, RSC -, BMCRE - Despite the lack of a complete obverse legend I was able to comfortably attribute this to the IMP VIII issue based on style alone. A couple of weeks ago the following coin became available and I simply had to buy it as it is an obverse die match to my first coin. I has a complete obverse legend but this legend still raises some questions. This new coin suffers from a lack of a complete reverse legend but the FORTA is clear leaving me comfortable attributing the reverse to FORTA REDVC. The quesion raised by the obverse legend on this second coin is one that has been plaguing this issue for some years. RIC and BMCRE have alocated some coins to an IMP VII issue. Current thinking by collectors of this issue is that the IMP VII isse does not exist and that allcoins attributed to IMP VII are mis-readings of IMP VIII due to a variety of factors such as blegend breaks of VI-II and VII-I and also unclear legends such as this coin where the engraver has cluttered the Is together. Obv:- L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP VIII, Laureate head right Rev:- FORT-A REDVC, Fortuna (Hilaritas) standing left, holding long palm in right hand, cornucopiae in left Minted in Laodicea ad Mare, A.D. 196 - 197 References:- RIC -, RSC -, BMCRE - Edited by maridvnvm 09/14/2013 6:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Masis Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 946 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 6:13 pm Beautiful, amazing issues from the eastern mints. Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 6:14 pm Die matches are ridiculously unlikely things and its great to see them here. My collection's goal is to get a die match of my first coin (that would be a good collection cap!) Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 8:03 pm Nice to be able to find a die match, I haven't been able to yet. Report this Post to the Staff
chrsmat71 Pillar of the Community United States 4981 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 9:24 pm hu...i didn't know you can have an obverse die match and have it not match with the revese also....interesting. cool coins to by the way. Report this Post to the Staff
ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 09/14/2013 9:30 pm Ben, if you haven't seen it already, check out Doug Smith's page about paired and linked dies. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/do...dielink.html Report this Post to the Staff
maridvnvm Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2100 Posts	Posted 09/15/2013 05:12 am I have many, many dies matches in my collection. Due to the specialist nature of some of my collection I come across die matches on a fairly regular basis. I tend not to buy double die matches that often as they don't add any information to my collection of to the area of study. I do have a couple of double die matches and generally have justified a reason to myself for buying them. First coin bought because the type is unlisted:- Obv:â€" IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right Rev:â€" MONET AVG, Moneta seated left, holding scales and cornucopiae Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194 - 195 References:â€" RIC -, RSC - The coin is problematic because, as is so foten the case with tese issues, not all the legends are present and in this case I could not confirm the reverse legend but had assumed MONET AVG. Other options such as MONETA or MONETAE were possible but less likely. Some time later I came across this second coin. This coin hasfull legends both sides and could replace my first coin completely but I keep them both because there is a story behind them. That could have been the end of things but about three weeks ago I added this coin to the colection. This time an obverse die match but with a VICTOR SEVER AVG reverse of which I have a few examples already. There's nothing really special about this reverse but I justified my purchase due to the obverse die link with the previous two coins combined with the legend break for the Victory coin being different from my previous examples of the type. This is REALLY stretching things but was justification enough for me. Report this Post to the Staff
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