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How Soon Would Halves And Dollar Coins Dwindle If Dca And I.

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 Posted 09/25/2013  9:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Fox to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The full title would be "How soon do you think half supplies and dollar coin supplies would dwindle if the Dollar Coin Alliance and I reach our goals?" Which is of course, the elimination of the $1 bill, and replacing older vending and self checkout machines with machines with coin mechs capable of accepting and dispensing dollar coins and halves? I mean if the DCA would help me with drawing attention to the $2 bill and half, as well as the dollar coin? Does anyone here think that the half supply would dwindle just as fast as the dollar coin supply, or would one denomination go sooner than the other?

I really think that, if the $1 bill is eliminated, the Treasury should order the U.S. Mint to go back to minting a circulation supply 2012-2013 Presidential, and Native American dollars for general circulation along side the 2014 and beyond designs, to give those who collect them, but can only afford them at face, and not in mint sets or boxes or bags at a premium, to give everyone who wants to collect both series, a chance.
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 Posted 09/25/2013  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since that nebulous "American public" is against it, and halves are so heavy, how about we introduce a 50-cent bill?

What could go wrong?

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 Posted 09/26/2013  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think half dollar coins will ever circulate again.
Dollar coins will IF the dollar bill is axed. But I think the size problem (quarters vs. dollars) has to be resolved.
And if the Feds are smart (is "Feds" and "smart" an oxymoron) they could start circulating the piles of $2 bills moldering the their vaults. I believe people would go for them; it would help alleviate complaints about the weight of all those dollar coins in the pocket.

Stop cent production; they will never be cost-effective.
Redo the nickel so that it WILL become cost-effective.
Use the half dollar for commemorative issues only; their larger size will allow for better designs than on quarters.

Unfortunately even though many of these suggestions make sense it would be too much for Congress to handle all at once.
Maybe one or two of the changes at a time.
Heck, Congress can't even fund the Federal budget effectively.
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 Posted 09/26/2013  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are lots of vending machines in Australia that accept polymer (plastic) notes.
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If the dollar note is axed I think the dollar coin supplies will be drawn down fairly quickly and they will go back into circulation production. Two dollar production will also increase which will slow the dollar coindraw/production but not stop it. The halves I still se as a dead issue. It is a large bulky coin that has no advantage over two quarters. And the quarters do have an advantage. They can be used for smaller purchases without having to get back a lot of change. If it was made smaller and lighter then it would have an advantage over two quarters and MIGHT circulate once more.
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The nickel will not be profitable. The dirt-cheap MPPS (Multi-Ply Plated Steel) Canadian nickel still runs anywhere from 7 to 11 cents based on distribution costs - even the dime should be made of aluminium.

Let the panickers melt down their 4.5-cent nickels now in yet another wave of anti-government warbling, and then forget the denomination entirely.
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 Posted 09/26/2013  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They'll need to ramp up dollar coin production even before the paper bill is withdrawn. The number they'll need to make is dependent primarily on how many $2 can be placed into commerce. If the banks refuse to issue the $2 note there simply aren't enough coins in existence to take the place of the $1 bill.

Withdrawl of the note would cause as many as 10 billion quarters to flow back to the FED.
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 Posted 09/27/2013  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect the government is procratinating on doing anything new with our monitary system for now. They possibly forsee the end of our entire monitary system soon enough. As cross country and intercontinental trading increases, a true universal monitary system is going to become a necessity. The computerization with more usage of credit and debit cards is a much better method for usage in comerse in the near future therefore eliminating all, what is now called, cash.
OR everything will soon become a type of paper money system with, as already stated, $.50 cent notes. Picture a paper Cent, Nickel, Dime all the way to the dollar.
Or begin making currency that is changable. By that I mean sort of a computerized chip inside a paper type currency that allows someone to pay $3.74 for something, it then gets put into a machine that deducts that from a preset amount.
Or just go back to the bartering system. No cash. No credit or debit cards. Just I give you a sweater and you give me a dozen eggs.
And here is something to think about. Did you know that there are 291 ways to make change for a dollar?
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They'll need to ramp up dollar coin production even before the paper bill is withdrawn.


You know there's over a billion in storage right?
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Replacing the $1 note with a high-volume-production $2 note makes sense for all reasons, and it would give $1 coins a reason to circulate.

The Half-Dollar has been NIFC since 2002, and should stay that way.
Its size does make a good base for commemoratives, if not circulating coins...
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The best way to get dollar coins to circulate is for the government to sell them at 90 cents each.
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The best way to get dollar coins to circulate is for the government to sell them at 90 cents each.


Aside from the fact that completely cheapens and devalues your money thats really only the best way to make sure they end up constantly being deposited at banks.

When they started the dollar coins you could order boxes with free shipping to try and get them circulating. People figured out ordering the boxes with a credit card that gets cash back was a way for them to make money and would just keep ordering and ordering dumping them at the bank to get the free money.
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Well that would be accelerating the inevitable, and only last until merchants wise up and raise prices.

Personally, I'd rather them be melted down and recycled.
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There are plenty of circulating coins elsewhere in the world that are of similar size to the US half-dollar - examples include the Australian 50c and the French Polynesia 50 francs. The UK £2 coin is only slightly smaller than the half-dollar (but has a much greater purchasing power). Several European countries had coins about the size of the half-dollar until the introduction of the Euro in 2002.

When did the half-dollar disappear from everyday circulation? I've seen old vending machines in museums with slots for them, and I've seen some fairly worn Walking Liberty and Franklin halves that must have been in use for quite a few years...
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When did the half-dollar disappear from everyday circulation?


Probably the 60s but at least since the 80s when they were more of a rare find than an every day occurrence. Its been quite a while.

Once they got rid of silver in coins the old coins started to get hoarded especially come the 80s when the price of silver ran up. But also being a Kennedy half people hoarded that because of what happened.

The fatal flaw to them that numbered their days was really when they left the Kennedy half as the only "circulating" coins with silver still in them for the better part of a decade.
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