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BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4591 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 1:14 pm It's an 1852 Silver 3 cent (trime) in no special grade... Reverse (full coin): Closeup of the damaged area (it's about 9.5mm) and has a slight curve to it: Closer on the right side - call me crazy, but aren't those letters? All I can come up with is a clashed die against something huge like a half dollar or dollar. Trime's are 14mm - Seated Liberty $1 were 38mm. Normally you would expect the clash only on the field because it's the raised part of the die. But trimes are so thin, 1.55mm, that the 'detailed' parts are pretty close to the surface too. If anyone wants to look closer, let me know and I'll figure out how to get you the file. I've posted the full 10M jpg at but it doesn't seem to want to load into a browser. -----Burton -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 1:29 pm Interesting. My current leaning is toward some sort of postmint impact, but the "flake" out on the rim hints at a planchet defect - I couldn't see PMD causing it. Is that last image a 100% crop of the original jpg? If so, sending me the full image wouldn't help much, but if that last image is still smaller than the original I'd sure like to see the original. Superdave AT coincommunity DOT com. Report this Post to the Staff
BStrauss3 Pillar of the Community United States 4591 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 2:34 pm The original 18MP / 10MB show has about 8x7mm of the coin. Gotta LOVE how easy true macro photos are with digital equipment. I've sent you the link. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 3:06 pm Got it. Based on the mega-image, I'm calling this one a planchet defect, and what we see here is as-struck. Report this Post to the Staff
pyrbob Rest in Peace United States 1943 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 3:42 pm Looks to me like a pre-strike delamination. Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 3:50 pm To give you an idea how huge the original is, the image below is shrunk to 50%. For the record, Burton, this image shows a little of the chroma noise I also experience using a good duplicating lens on a bellows. It's correctable by shooting RAW and processing through Canon's Digital Photo Professional software, which has the option of reducing chroma without affecting sharpness. Report this Post to the Staff
jpbone Pillar of the Community United States 1959 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 4:07 pm I agree with pre strike lamination flaw. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 09/29/2013 6:58 pm So, are BStrauss3 and I the only ones seeing letters? Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 09/30/2013 02:23 am Lamination. The "letters" your seeing is your mind trying to force order on random "noise". Report this Post to the Staff
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