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Would like to see this act take effect. Other major world economies have already done away with cents and haven't fallen off the map. Seems like one has to fight tooth and nail in the US to get anything done.
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If you read the wording carefully, it would pretty much end most numismatic sales of the US Mint and possibly end the precious metal bullion program as well. All of these coins have denominations that are far, far below the cost to obtain, produce and market each coin. The legislation seems to only apply to circulating coinage, but theoretically numismatic and bullion coins could circulate at their face values.

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If you read the wording carefully, it would pretty much end most numismatic sales of the US Mint and possibly end the precious metal bullion program as well...
This bill amends Section 5111 of title 31 to add...

(e) Prohibition on Certain Minting- Notwithstanding any other provision of this subchapter, the Secretary may not mint or issue any coin that costs more to produce than the denomination of the coin (including labor, materials, dies, use of machinery, overhead expenses, marketing, and shipping).(emphasis mine).

It does not remove or cancel (a)(3), The Secretary of the Treasury -- may prepare and distribute numismatic items;


Then again, we are dealing with the government, well known to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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In the most recent fiscal year, across all denominations the total value of coins shipped to the Federal Reserve was $493.3 million which cost $387.4 million to produce, resulting in seigniorage of $105.9 million.

Something like $75 million of that seigniorage came from the President and NA dollars struck in the last quarter of 2011 (Which was the first quarter of fiscal year 2012). There is no dollar coin production in the 2013 fiscal year so that $75 million won't be there in the next report. When the 2012 mint report came out I worked the figures and if it hadn't been for the dollar coins the seigniorage profit would have been about $16 million not $105 million. This years mint report should be interesting.
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