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United States
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And couple that with the fact that they are the longest ever in production for any US type coin. The Lincoln Cent (with changes to the reverse several times) is now 104 years old, the Jefferson nickel is 75 years old (with changes to the obverse recently which in my opinion made it even uglier), the Roosevelt dime is 67 years old (oddly with no changes all the other older circulation coins have seen changes), the Washington quarter is 81 years old (I do like the fun reverses they have done from statehood to national parks just not a fan of the obverse) and even the Kennedy half is 49 years old (this would probably be my favorite modern coin unless you count the Sacagawea dollar). I am not a fan of the presidents face on coins and always preferred the depictions of liberty on the coins and now here we are with almost every coin having a presidents face on it for over 50 years. And couple this with the fact that we came from the most gorgeous era of coins in US history to the ugliest its like a double whammy. Arguably the best coins from each series had to be the Indian Head cent (although I love the Flying Eagle cent), the Buffalo nickel, the Mercury dime (although I am kind of partial to the Barber dime a little more), the Standing Liberty quarter and the Walking Liberty half. Even so much they have duplicated these designs on modern coins because they look so much better like adding the buffalo reverse and even doing a commemorative of it and making the silver eagle with the Walking Liberty half obverse. I swear we are so bogged down in politics nothing ever gets accomplished anymore. I can't see them changing the designs because that means someone in congress would actually have to do something other than argue and takes tons of vacation days. Lets do away with the cent cmon the darn thing cost over 2 cents to make and no one would truly miss it other countries have adapted without it. Heck our own country had more common sense in the 1850's when it did away with the Half Cent because the cost to produce it was more than it was worth, I swear we are a lot dumber since the 1850's. Do away with the dollar bill and go to dollar coins as well, again we are throwing away money on these things. How many people actually carry cash any more anyways, most people pay with cards nowdays anyways. People would adapt. Get rid of the ugly designs, do away with the waste.
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United States
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All of my numismatic budget is spent on coins dated 1964 or older. In fact the only 20th century coins on my wantlist are 4 business strike Roosies that are Unc FT's
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United States
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My feelings on Modern vs Classic is that classic will always have an edge over modern, mainly because classic is no longer made and to some degree harder to obtain. It's the same with cars. Modern cars now-a-days are beautiful machines, but see an old car coming down the street and everyone looks and dreams of the past, for they are unique. And so are coins. I do agree the the existing coins have had a run that is far too long, and our Mint have gone from quality to quantity. We have too much to choose from, just like a restaurant with a ten page menu, you just don't know what to select.
Edited by bill069 09/29/2013 12:33 pm
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United States
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I think you would have a much stronger argument with the BEP than with the mint of not changing anything in a long time or having limited options. But eh, I like some of the old designs of US coinage but I don't want the same designs brought back. But I wouldn't mind bringing back a particular style. I don't mind the presidents but the personifications with different designs would be nice. But I don't want to see a replica. I like the designs of the Educational Series but I definitely wouldn't like to see the same designs like they do with the American eagles/Walking liberty. The American eagles are a cheap knockoff of a wonderful design, but whatever. I dislike how the mint keeps trying to bring back the old designs/replicate the old stuff. They're saying they don't have anyone that can create nice new designs and that's just not true. And this is why I collect the modern commeratives, some years aren't good but some are just fabulous. Look at last years Star spangled banner designs!! I'll buy that all day long. I guess I'm in the minority here but if I had the option of buying this year's gold buffalo, gold eagle or platinum eagle, id go with the platinum eagle easily, just look at this years reverse for the platinum. But overall the mint gives people options that like the old designs or new designs. I personally, just don't like to go backwards, I like to go forward. And bringing back those designs is going backwards. The other way I see it is, the mint is limiting opportunities for artists that can design good quality work. So I see it as, its nice to honor the old designs, but how about helping out the people that are working now trying to make a living? But collect what you want, there are plenty of options out there now. And if you don't like US currency, try another country's or stay with stuff from a different period. Or like I said, the mint cranks out the commerative stuff and different designs come out every year. I mean there are just so many options now and a lot of them are affordable options. Wow, I still can't get over the reverse of the 2013 platinum eagle, just wonderful.
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United States
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I thinki moderns will always have an edge on classics for several reasons but foremost among them is that moderns are in circulation. There are hundreds of designs in circulation which which just beckons people to assemble sets and seek out niceexamples. The fact that most are worn and/ or are poorly made just makes the challenge of making nice sets that much greater. One doesn't need to put a lot of money into any of these sets yet still they'll get the thrill of the hunt. It's almost the same difference as stocking your shelves with the produce sold in the stores or going out and hunting and gathering your own stocks. Everytime someone handles coins there are little calling cards enticing them to assemble sets. And the opportunities are boundless. If you have a spare few million sitting around you can buy a 1913 Liberty nickel or maybe you can find a 1964 clad quarter in circulation just by knowing what to look for. The quarter is much rarer as well.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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I havent been a fan of the redesigned Penny and Nickel, and do admit the Dime and Half are getting a little old. Though I was enjoying the penny and nickel before they were changed. I do love what theyve done with the quarter with the ATBs and the States. I also like the Presidential dollar series, though I think it would have been better if they had a silver color on those. I'm not a fan of the sac dollars, but if they didnt have that awful gold color I probably would like them more. If I had to pick one series I would say the modern commemoratives are my favorite for whats still being made though I like Ikes and SBAs a lot too. Overall I am drawn more to classic coins since theyre harder to find, but I like moderns as well. I would assume that every generation at the time thought the older coins were better the bias against modern coins is that theyre everywhere and easy to get. Anytime you have to put more effort into finding something youre going to value it more.
Edited by basebal21 09/29/2013 3:34 pm
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United States
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Love love love the ATB's and I got into collecting the new Sacs with their new reverses. I have all the new ones and they look great in really good conditions.
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Canada
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I've been drawing up some completely different designs lately for fun. I'll post them one day.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Most people I know that collect coins just don't bother with modern ones. If asked why, they normally simply say "BORRING" For some reason, people are just getting tired of seeing someones's face on a coin. Possibly if they changed whose face it was frequently enough, more people would like them. For example why not produce coins with different Presidents on them and change who each year. Or did they try that already?/ 
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United Kingdom
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I wonder what the Swiss think - their 5, 10 and 20 rappen have had the same design since 1879 (though the 5r had a colour change in 1981) and the 1/2, 1 and 2 francs have had the same design since 1875 (with a metal change in 1968). As for the 5F, it was first issued with the current design in 1922 although not reduced to the present size until 1932 and not issued in cupro-nickel until 1968. There have been subtle variations, such as a change from coin to medal alignment on the higher values and a change in the number of stars to reflect the number of cantons. But basically most Swiss coins still bear the same designs as in the 1870s!
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United States
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I like the $50 Gold Buffalo and the 5 oz ATB Quarters. I would like the regular ATB Quarters but my eyes are not good enough to see the design in such a small space. I would like to see a totally new 50 cent piece, dime and penny.
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United States
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Eventually the "moderns" will become someone else's classics. IMO.
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I say modern coins get 6 out of 10 stars.
Classic are 10 out of 10 stars.
I just like classic because they had cooler designs.
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United Kingdom
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Very good point Bizybackson Modern coins are still nice to collect because you can get shiny fresh new ones  at not too huge a cost and eventually over time they will become ....... classics. Compare that with some of the worn grimy classics I bet in the old days collectors said the same about the coins that were common in their era but then years later those coins which were once very common are now reverend to us.....I therefore guess one day in the future others will appreciate our present coins more than we did when they were still common ...
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United States
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The difference is coins changed more often. It is safe to say the Lincoln Penny has been the only version of a penny for most of us. Not the case for the penny designs prior to that. They were not used for 100 years. Many of us have lived with the same dime as well. In my opinion change makes the old version collectible.
Edited by tpg22 09/29/2013 9:02 pm
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