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I was wondering if die cracks make a coin worth more or less, or more or less collectible? I am interested in purchasing a coin with a huge die crack in it for my collection and willing to pay good for it considering the condition and the age of the coin.... thanks for any help... PEACE..
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Generally speaking, everybody will answer this differently.

They'll add interest - and potential value - for some people, and turn others off. In the case of some issues, they're key to known die states/varieties, and might for that reason command a premium. They're very common in some issues (early Nickel coins, Morgans, etc.) and uncommon in others, but rarely absent completely.
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I am one who is fascinated by die cracks, Cuds and other mint errors in series I love. I do have some neat 3CNs with Cuds, laminations, etc. but with the exception of one, I did not pay a premium for them. My avatar was the exception and even then I did not pay too much over what it was worth to the general public.
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I am interested in purchasing a coin with a huge die crack in it for my collection and willing to pay good for it considering the condition and the age of the coin


Let's see it!

I'll throw another vote in for a BIG PLUS on Die Cracks! I have a few that are fairly obvious. As SsuperDdave mentioned about the "new" nickels, the mint had a heck of a time keeping dies in working order with this new metal.

I have this one up for sale on ebay;

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Sometimes the dies just get wore-out, even with softer materials such as copper;

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Silver coins were not immune to these culprits, and can be a means of identification of certain varieties;

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(Above image from VAMWorld.com)

Some people will pay more for them, some people won't.

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For me die cracks add "personality" to a coin.
I won't buy a coin because of a die crack.
BUT
I won't avoid a coin because of a die crack if I it is otherwise what I want for a set.

There are some coins for which a die crack is a diagnostic but I suspect not many.
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h8, that '66 is wicked!
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As a general rule, coins with abnormally large or numerous die cracks in comparison to their respective series will command a premium. Take into account though, that not everyone recognizes this premium and would comsider them defects or distractions or just normal die wear. Other times, a die crack will command a premium if it's interesting, representative of a rare die pairing or state, or on a special strike such as a proof or SMS coin.
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I don't know why you want to buy one for your collection .... if you look long enough, you'll find one.
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well after much thought here's the coin I'm looking at...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/33103162186....m1423.l2649

I just hope no one here likes it as much as I do... I have another one that I'm looking at but its not as cool looking.... PEACE ...
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GRRR! another ebay teaser. Gotta wait until I get to the house.

Bottom line, if you like it...Go For It! Make sure they have a return policy too.
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sorry about that O, its a 1865 2 cent piece with a continuous die crack that starts in "states" and goes past "America" there's a lot of die cracks or what looks like die cracks on the reverse in several areas.. very neat coin IMO...
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That's an amazing crack; you can expect enthusiasts to be out in force for it, and bidding will likely exceed its' intrinsic value.

Luckily for you, I lack the money to be bidding at the moment.
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You can count me out as well. I am digging my MS63 Medallic Alignment 2 Cent Piece...I snuck out of my "Cone of Silence" to check it out...impressive!

Success!

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I'm rooting for you!
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Not much chance of finding one of those in your change.
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I just hope no one here likes it as much as I do... I have another one that I'm looking at but its not as cool looking.... PEACE ...


It can be instructive to pull out the bidding history and sort it by time to see how badly somebody wants it...

Bidder Bid Amount Bid Date Time
Starting Price    US $0.99 9/27/13 3:21 PM
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Member Id: g***n( 637)    US $27.11 10/2/13 2:42 AM
Member Id: g***n( 637)    US $34.97 10/3/13 2:49 AM
Member Id: a***r( 18)    US $30.00 10/3/13 12:25 PM
Member Id: a***r( 18)    US $32.00 10/3/13 12:25 PM
Member Id: a***r( 18)    US $34.00 10/3/13 12:25 PM
Member Id: a***r( 18)    US $35.97 10/3/13 12:25 PM
Member Id: a***r( 18) US $35.97 10/3/13 12:26 PM

And s/he as a unknown higher bid maximum in place...
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