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1884-S Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 10/11/2013  10:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TallGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a Morgan dollar with S mint from 1884. I would like to know how much this coin could sell for in it's current condition.

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 Posted 10/11/2013  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WheatBack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from the photos, but my best guess is it grades around a F-12 to VF-20. Obverse photo gives it the appearance that it's been cleaned as well. We'll see what others say, but if it has been cleaned it will be worth around melt in my opinion.
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Alright well thank you WheatBack for your input, I have never cleaned it and I've had this coin for a good ten years. What would be the value if uncleaned?
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 Posted 10/12/2013  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1884-S is a weird issue. It's not particularly rare, with over 3 million minted and apparently very few of them were melted under the Pittman Act. However, the reason so few were melted is that almost all of them went directly into circulation - Morgans produced in the West tended to circulate much more than those from Philadelphia. So this one's commonly available in Circulated grades, and even uncleaned yours is a minimum-value coin due to that commonality.

On the other end of the scale, a Mint State 1884-S is a staggering rarity, a true stopper on the scale of 1893-S or 1889-CC in similar grade. Any Uncirculated 1884-S will set you back a 5-digit number, and you'd better have $40k burning a hole in your pocket if you want one at the MS63 level. A 65 - if you can find one (PCGS has only 3 higher than 64 including the silly Jack Lee MS68) - would cost well over $100,000.
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Wow, thank you so much for clearing that up!
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It's always my pleasure to blather on at mind-numbing length about Morgans.
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It's always my pleasure to blather on at mind-numbing length about Morgans.


SD- is there a book on Morgans somewhere out there that discusses them in the same way that you do? Man, I would love that. The way you bring all the facts, theory, prices, etc. together is so interesting.

I guess I just need to copy and paste everything you've ever said about Morgans on this forum and turn it into a nice, huge WORD document.
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is there a book on Morgans somewhere out there that discusses them in the same way that you do?


I consider the Red Book of Morgan dollars by Q. David Bowers a good source of overall information.
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In addition to Bowers' work, the Van Allen/Mallis VAM Encyclopedia is of course a necessity for the library of any serious Morgan student. However, Morgans are an area of knowledge which is by no means completely explored yet; new VAMs are being discovered every day and relative rarities are still a moving target.
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I consider the Red Book of Morgan dollars by Q. David Bowers a good source of overall information.


I have the VAM encyclopedia, but I'll sure pick up the Red Book on Morgans. I love the history surrounding this series.
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I bought the e-book version of the Morgan dollar Red Book, and I'm reading it on my way to the Smokey Mountains! It's a great read- just what I was looking for. The funny thing is that I have seen this book several times before, but I just never bothered to really check it out.
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I bought the e-book version of the Morgan dollar Red Book, and I'm reading it on my way to the Smokey Mountains! It's a great read- just what I was looking for. The funny thing is that I have seen this book several times before, but I just never bothered to really check it out.
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