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Beware Of This Large Cent Auction .. If You've Bid...retract

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Friends ... No, it's not John McCain ...

I saw this listing when it first came up early this morning, and the coin looked way too familiar, and way too nice.

I did a Google image search and discovered that the images that are being used in this auction were stolen from the Coinfacts site, now owned by PCGS. Since I don't "own" the images, I can't effectively report the problem to ebay. I have notified PCGS of the fraud, and wanted to make sure that nobody gets stung. Is there a coin? ... Maybe there is and maybe there isn't. Its not a gamble I'd be willing to take.

"Zero" feedback is not a good sign in this case. The seller has probably gotten the boot for similar activity, or it may even be a stolen account.

I had a little "back and forth" with the seller ... and he denies that the images were copied and pasted from Coinfacts, claiming to have taken them with his cell phone.

Here's a link to the offending listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...:RTQ:US:1123

...and here's a link to the coinfacts page that the pics were taken from:

http://www.coinfacts.com/large_cent...arieties.htm

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 Posted 10/12/2013  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fine job of spotting this apparent scam, CS ... Or should I say XF!
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 Posted 10/12/2013  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If he took those pictures with his cellphone, I'm Santa Claus.
Report him to ebay and contact PCGS too.
He'll be done.
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 Posted 10/12/2013  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I knew I had him "dead to rights" when his first response was to get snotty and attack my grammar and sentence structure. I had made a typo ... "i" instead of "in" ...

I've reported it to both ebay and PCGS, but it wouldn't hurt if they got a few more reports.

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 Posted 10/12/2013  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/12/2013  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgettings00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually I think it's very obvious he took the photo with his cell phone.
You can clearly see the distinguishing vertical lines that appears on any photo taken of a computer monitor/ tv screen.
He did one better than saving the image to his computer and using that.

You really have to wonder what kind of people would actually bid on this
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 Posted 10/12/2013  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think he actually meant he took a picture of the actual coin with his phone.
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 Posted 10/12/2013  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have an application that supports drag and drop, you can copy an image to your "clipboard" from anywhere on the web, or within your computer, and drop or paste it into another document without saving to your hard drive. The down side ... is that it always shows vertical biasing, exactly like those images.

The seller implied that he'd taken pictures of the coin that was in his possession, and that the coin shown was his coin. That one's a stretch better than EF ... probably one of the finest known, whihc the coinfacts page states is an MS-65B

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 Posted 10/12/2013  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice catch, it never surprises me the sheer laziness of these scams. You really couldnt pick a much more obvious source then ripping off coinfacts photos.


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If he took those pictures with his cellphone, I'm Santa Claus.


Is it too early to tell you what I want for Christmas or should I wait until after Thanksgiving?

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If anybody wants to play how high can you go, I'll bid $100k...
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If you have an application that supports drag and drop, you can copy an image to your "clipboard" from anywhere on the web, or within your computer, and drop or paste it into another document without saving to your hard drive. The down side ... is that it always shows vertical biasing, exactly like those images.


I don't know what kind of computer you have but I can copy any picture on the net to my clipboard and drop it in any program I have and its perfectly copied with no lines.
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 Posted 10/13/2013  02:14 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah it's taken from his monitor.
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 Posted 10/13/2013  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't tried it recently ... since it used to be an inferior way of copying an image. I've used HP products for more than a decade, a couple desktops, and now a 17" laptop that never leaves the house....but doesn't have a bale of wires hooking everything up.

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Yep, he did use his cell phone. . . . . to take the picture of the coin displayed on his computer screen. What an absolute goober.
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on any picture, simply right-click and select copy image or copy image location or save image..
this works on any computer running windows.
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I asked if the coin pictured is the one the winner will receive last night. No answer yet.
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