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Rare 1880 NFLD $2 Dollar Gold Piece. Grade Opinions?

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 Posted 11/02/2013  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scotts Canadian Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
double eagle:

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I agree with everything you said in your above post except the very last words where you say ....... "as to whether the marks occurred during mint processing, or during limited circulation" (to determine the assigned graded of mint state or circulated).

Now I ask you...."how in blazes is one supposed to figure that one out?"

You left out of my quote a very important word - "opinion".

I assert that the grader has to make an "opinion" in that case as to in their experience / knowledge / training how marks occurred - which is why the art / science frustratingly has us debating these issues.

The types of coins in this range are indeed going to be difficult to make a certain assessment of - but if we apply the knowledge and opinions offered so far in this particular topic thread and go back to the original coins THC pictured for opinion - most have stated that in their opinion the coins had sufficient markings which appear to have occurred post mint re wear and should not warrant assignment above AU.


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Grading is both an art and a science.

It not only needs a set of rules (guidelines) but also needs a trained, experienced eye to evaluate the coins' grade as a whole.

To grade strictly by the 'book' will lead to many mistakes.
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 Posted 11/02/2013  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scott....my mistake....."You left out of my quote a very important word - "opinion"."
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Here is the rundown of the guessed grades Scott. Everyone agreed on the hairlines. A lot of the commentary and discussion came after the grade was revealed and the MS62 coin was posted.

MSDetails
AU55
MS60
AU58
MS60
MS60
MS60
AU55/58 (Yours)
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 Posted 11/02/2013  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scotts Canadian Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I'm wondering - given that this topic thread, and it's similar sister thread, "Abandoning ICCS in favour of CCCS and PCGS" - rank #1 and #3 respectively in terms of activity (number of replies) over past year - whether Canadian Forums should have a similar separate Forum (like they have for American)
on "Third Party Graders" ?


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