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1961 Penny And Half Penny...proof?

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 Posted 10/29/2013  1:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kafka to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

My father left me a coin collection in which I found 3 sets of a 1961 Penny and Half Penny. They were stored in plastic for over 30 years. Are they proof?

Thanks so much.


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1961-Penny-And-Half-Penny...proof?

1961-Penny-And-Half-Penny...proof?

1961-Penny-And-Half-Penny...proof?
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 Posted 10/29/2013  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I may be wrong, but these do not look like proofs.
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 Posted 10/29/2013  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kafka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply.

I didn't think so but they were in a plastic sleeve for so long I wondered if the plastic effected the coin. Here's one of the sleeves.



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 Posted 10/29/2013  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You need to get some acetone onto those coins ASAP to remove as much residue as possible before they deteriorate further.

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Acetone? Um, what about all the 'don't mess with coins it'll ruin their value' advice? Do you think they're proof? Thanks.
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Hey Jeff-

I read up on acetone. Thanks for the advice.

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With the caveat that I am completely unfamiliar with Aussie proofs, I would say that there is a good chance they are proofs given the hammered strikes and sharp squared rims. I also see a matte finish vs. the cartwheel luster/radial die flow typically seen on business strikes. The first thing that popped into my head when I saw your images was that you have the dreaded PVC contamination and your later image of the green ring on the flip confirmed my suspicions. The green slime is corrosive and will eventually ruin the coins given enough time. Get them into an acetone or xylene bath yesterday and DO NOT reuse those plastic flips.
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Thanks bloke. Now, say I don't have the 2x2 flips today. What's the best temp storage?
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They are definitely proofs, not particularly good quality examples though.

Acetone is the way to protect them from further corrosion but if you've never used it before, you could easily cause further damage. You don't want to experiment on proofs. It might be safer using PCGS/NGC's conservation service.
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They look like proofs to me.
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Thank you wwwww and Joseph. I read up on acetone. Seems straightforward. Dip coin for a few minutes. Remove. Rinse in acetone. Air dry. However, if I were to go the coin consolidation route I would need to shell out some shekels. Is it worth it? What do you think I could get for the pair? Again, thanks so much.
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However, if I were to go the coin consolidation route I would need to shell out some shekels. Is it worth it? What do you think I could get for the pair? Again, thanks so much.


These are both $400-$600 coins and In my opinion are well worth the expense of getting restored and slabbed by PCGS
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Thanks Trout. Maybe I'll just put away the bottle of acetone. Is PCGS the service of choice?
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