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Led Lighting Too Harsh

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I bought two jansjo led lights from IKEA and have been messing around with them. My only issue is all my pics look like they are being taken in sunlight. That is to say that the coins look much worse than what they actually are. Coins that are MS64 under incandescents look circulated under these LEDs. I have seen other take nice pics with these so I am not sure what I am doing incorrect thanks.
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Pictures would help us assist you more. I use LEDs and don't the problem you are. However I do use an axial lighting set up for my brightest and shiniest coins. You may need to look at such a set up.
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Diffuse those suckers. Here's how I use mine;

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Diffusion is usually the answer. Also, work with the distance from light to coin, and angles.
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I am shooting with a digital camera, nothing spectacular. My goal is basically to have decent pics that I can post here from time to time, etc. The first picture of the coin is of the two LEDs positioned at 10 and 2 about 6 inches from the coin. The second pic is the same coin under an overhead incandescent chandelier with about 15 low wattage bulbs. It puts off a warmer light, which appears to more accurately portray the coin. The LEDs just seem too white and make a lot of the fields look mirrored, like proofs.

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The first one makes it look like a proof. The second is closer to reality though it makes it appear a bit more matte than it should be. This is a fairly lustrous coin.

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6 inches? Mine are probably 15 or so inches off.
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You can get anywhere from the first lustrous Jansjo images to the later matte chandelier images by varying the amount of diffusion from the Jansjos.
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I also use Jansjo lamps, but I do have several sheets of tissue wrapped around them and rubber banded in place to cut down glare and act as diffusers. This helps a lot.
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I think all that's working here is a difference in perception of what the coin "should" look like. The original image - the one which ndwlegal objects to - is what I'd personally prefer to see in order to appropriately evaluate the coin. The second image is nice and clear, easier to give a technical grade, but I can't guess luster from it and it would tend to underestimate marring in the fields.

A good illustration of why both approaches at once, posting both images, are the best solution if you want the most accurate opinions regarding your coin.
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I took some more photos today and worked on lighting diffusion and distances. I think I need to upgrade my camera to do much better. I just want a picture that shows the coin as it appears in hand. With the two above I feel like the actual coin lies inbetween. The first one is handy for evaluating the coin, but it shows little luster. I feel like it is more like looking at a coin under a 30x loupe and not what it looks like under normal viewing... or maybe this will help me start buying better coins!
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That's funny - I see all the luster I need to in the first image. It's in the contrast between "lit" areas (BER, GOD & the date) and "dark" ones where one discerns the true luster. The second image shows no luster at all, making it look sorely overdipped.
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