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I am trying to decide if I should break this out and re-submit....what do you think (the small red mark around the eye is actually inside the holder not on the coin, but there is a small smudge on the coin lower eye). What would you grade this at?

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I almost don't even want to hazard a guess with these pics... Very difficult to see whats actually going on with the coin with the angle and light.. If I had to guess it'd be a blind guess.... As I can't really see the surfaces of the coin. Uummm... MS-64.. But I would definitely like to see some better pics...

Before cracking it you have to remember that 1881-s is one of the dates/mints known for a superior strike and excellant quality. This date/mint is commonly found in high, high grades with great strikes.... So the third party graders are especially tough on low-mid MS grades. Alot get graded less than many believe they should because of this.. Just food for thought.
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Not sure if these pics are much better....It still bothers me they got a red piece of dust or lint inside the slab.
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 Posted 11/02/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Higher end 64. This date comes very, very nice so you need to have a pretty dang solid coin to break into the higher grades.
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Nice 64. Could make 64+/65 on s good day.
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MS 64, looks like slight cleaning around in god. Might get MS65 but I would say that's max especially for the year.
I don't think it's worth breaking it out, especially if you already payed once to have it graded
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The strike is a touch weak on this one, evidenced above the ear and on the eagles breast feathers. I don't think this would go higher than a MS64, 1881-S not worth slabbing fees unless it makes it into a MS66 or better holder in my mind.

Edit to say I'll bet this is sitting in a PCGS MS65 holder, I still think it's a MS64 at best.
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MS-64.
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MIght have snuck into a 65 slab but technically I don't think it's better than MS-64 so I will say 64
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I am not a slab fan, but having said that, I think that the possible benefits of a higher grade are not worth the extra cost of a re slab. Most probably, it should come back at the grade it has already been rated at.
I am thinking MS63 or 4.
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It got a 65..i know my photography isn't great..thought it might get a 66. I still can't believe they got lint inside the holder. Thanks for the feedback .
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It got a 65..i know my photography isn't great..thought it might get a 66. I still can't believe they got lint inside the holder. Thanks for the feedback .
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I can see it as a 65 but if you are hoping for a 66, and that is the reason to resubmit, then don't do it. It does not look close to 66 and as others have noted, it honestly looks 64+ in the images. Call them about the red speck if it really bothers you.
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Not to mention, this may be the most common single Morgan in MS66 - the TPG's (PCGS and NGC) have graded over 25,000 between them - and it's one of the least-expensive 66's as a result.
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