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Elizabeth I Wire Line

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 Posted 11/02/2013  5:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sheencrofter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm just thinking of getting into Elizabeth I coins and see in my book the term " wire line ".
Just wonder if someone can tell me what it means.
Many thanks.
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 Posted 11/02/2013  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wire line is a good description when you see one.

Thinner and unbeaded, possibly it was a guide line scratched with something like a compass onto the die to help the positioning of the design. Here it lies within the inner circle:

Elizabeth-I-Wire-Line
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And on this one there is no beaded circle, just wire lines:

Elizabeth-I-Wire-Line

That help, Sheen?
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Hi Tom

Very nice Liz shilling, dificult to get good striking of the full face

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Hi Tom a second type, you are spoiling us, I love Liz but s dificult to find in good condition

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I think you will find that Richard (Tom) has an amazing collection of hammered Tudor and Stuart coins, and might well share some more stunning Liz I busts if we are nice to him!!
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I think you will find that Richard (Tom) has an amazing collection of hammered Tudor and Stuart coins, and might well share some more stunning Liz I busts if we are nice to him!!


Ah, sadly not mine guys! In this case, coinarchives.com came to my assistance!
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When Richard finishes his Charles 1 1/- collection maybe he will widen his focus.

I can see the attraction of hammered series shillings.Even as a type collector a good coin which ticks the boxes can be difficult.
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Sorry Tom/Richard, thought they were yours (wish they were mine!)

If you are after a high quality type (rather than a particular year/Mint mark/variety) they are (arguably) not too unobtainable from UK dealers ... somewhat surprisingly! Or even on ebay uk!

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Yes, as has been said, the wire line is, quite literally, the 'wire line', though it's a term more often used to say 'no beaded inner circle'!
You should definitely get into Liz, the varieties are endless, and well documented by BCW (though not so totally complete, that there aren't still a good number of exciting finds to be had)!
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When Richard finishes his Charles 1 1/- collection maybe he will widen his focus.


Well, there's a few gaps to fill. Then the upgrades to work on. Then the decision as to whether to add variations of the types that I have examples for to the collection ...

But in a century or so, I think Jeff had better watch out. Because we'll definitely be competing for the same coins by then I imagine!!

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Hi Tom,
Many thanks for the information. Really interesting.
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Hi Tom/Richard

Coins are made round to keep coming round

Jeff
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