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Shipping Currency Internationally

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 Posted 11/03/2013  9:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eklections to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've recently sold several pieces of international currency. I think all of these are defunct currencies and therefore worthless except for their collector value. I've found that several of the notes were purchased by people in countries where the shipment of currency to their country is either prohibited (Estonia) or Restricted requiring authorization to ship by the bank of Sweden (Sweden). Am I reading something wrong or should I simply dis-allow people from these countries to purchase my items and write it off as a lesson learned the hard way? Thanks in advance for your inputs. They are much appreciated.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's always best to know the customs laws of the countries you plan on shipping to before selling stuff online. If you take the chance and ship it, and the incoming customs office finds it, they will seize it and you will never see it again.

You best bet is to make sure you block bids from countries you don't want to ship to. Yeah, it's a pain in the rear but so is getting nailed for those "item not received" disputes.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eklections to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've spoken with several individuals regarding the international shipment of obsolete currency. The common theme has been that since this currency no longer has monetary value for the purchase of goods and services, it no longer represents currency but rather a collectible. My interest is how to mark the customs forms. I would like to mark it correctly but would also like to avoid unnecessary scrutiny and appreciate some advice from someone with more knowledge in this area as I'm clearly new to this. Thanks.
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 Posted 11/06/2013  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, I am from Sweden, and never heard of those restrictions.
However, we do make our currency obsolete quite often. Not at all like in the US, where a 1899 dollar bill is still legal tender.

I would mark the custom form as "cotton paper" if it's obsolete...would probably do it if it's still legal as well. I think most currency restrictions has to do with money laundering.

sometimes, the Swedish customs has held coins a few days so I can provide proof of the content's value, so I get to pay a 25% import tax on it.

If you state in your ad that you have no control of foreign laws and regulations, and the seller buys on his/her own risk of getting that custom tax, they can't complain. At least I haven't yet.
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 Posted 12/12/2013  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The same restriction applies to UK postal service. In Britain it isn't uncommon for a postal clerk to ask if the package contains jeweller or monetary devices (probably due to concern about theft/insurance etc it is restricted)
Having said that it isn't uncommon to send banknotes inside Christmas cards and coins ect I normally just describe as tokens and haven't had a problem.

I try not to buy from US sellers if possible because it is a considerable gamble at my end. While some vendors of notes on ebay describe the contents of the package as "printed paper" others go all out describing it as a collectable and full value declaration as a sale. Sellers with experience realise these rules and several send bills standard delivery uninsured with no declaration (they take a risk that they don't go missing but must cover that risk in volume sold)

If the box "gift" is ticked this saves me 20% VAT if not I end up paying an admin surcharge of about £7 + 20% on the value declared. It means several bargain notes turned out to cost may well over the odds. The laws on seconhand goods in the country means I should not be liable to VAT anyway since on second-hand goods the VAT has already been paid...so I should only be liable to VAT on the vendors profit. But in the case of an obsolete currency it is only worth the value of the paper, any other value attached to it by a collector is just speculation so I don't understand the need to declare its full value in order to gift the government money for no reason.

Rant over.
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