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 Posted 11/07/2013  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LowLife to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed....I believe they mainly sell to old-schooler's OR people buying them for birthday's, anniversaries, or anything else year-related.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add denco7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Say what you want, but sales of proof sets, far exceed sales of Proof Silver Eagles and Burnished Silver Eagles every year.

Are you saying no one wants these either ? Proof sets and Mint sets are the basis of every amateur collector's collection and unless the mint short sells them like they did last year to spur sales, there will always be at least a million people that want them.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Say what you want, but sales of proof sets, far exceed sales of Proof Silver Eagles and Burnished Silver Eagles every year.


Which is really part of the problem. Their mintage makes them a dime a dozen. I would suspect a good percentage of those are sold to be cut up for albums or cherry pick gradable coins artificially inflating the interest in them.

Theres nothing wrong with having them or getting them if you like them, but theyre anything but an investment quality piece.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schris252 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have three proof sets, one is my birth year, one I got for my birth day and one is a random one I bought impulsively on ebay. was going to buy the 2013 proof set, but I will wait to buy it when the price goes down to $7-$10 which is only a matter of time. no way are the proof sets from 1970 - present (maybe a few exceptions, too lazy/don't care to look up mintage figures/value of specific sets) are going to be worth a lot in our lifetimes. so in conclusion, I feel a mint set collection is not a worthwhile venture to embark on.
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 Posted 11/07/2013  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Proof sets are also good for filling modern album pages just as the mint sets are. They're probably cheapest when bought together as a set than if the individual coins were priced separately. I suspect the declining mintages are for those collectors doing exactly that, to fill album pages and the occasional extra set for an anniversary, memento or gift. Nobody is really stockpiling these with the hope of future profit, most dealers that sell modern US wouldn't even look at someone's proof sets if they aren't silver.
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 Posted 11/08/2013  02:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Superhal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kind of an aside, but lets say you get them at face value. How many per year is "a collection?"
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 Posted 12/03/2013  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atchisonbj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The high value on the 2012 Silver Proof Set is a bubble that Will burst. We've seen this before with 1995, 1999, 2001, and 2008. Here's a word for thought on modern coins. The way the big boys make lots of money out of them is through PROMOTIONS.
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 Posted 12/05/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2012 S silver set made a new key issue for the Kennedy half and Roosevelt dime series at 395,433.

This is the lowest mintage since 1955.

This means the only silver proof sets with less mintages are:
1936 3,837
1937 5,542
1938 8,045
1939 8,795
1940 11,246
1941 15,287
1942 21,120
1950 51,386
1951 57,500
1952 81,980
1953 128,800
1954 233,300
1955 378,200

1956 669,384
1957 1,247,952
1958 875,652
1959 1,149,291
1960 1,691,602

And the numbers continue going upwards from there until 1993.

Any of the modern silver one, by the nature of being a PM, will likely not go down in value. However, the 2012 S silver is the only modern set I can see having a chance of appreciating much in value since it is a key date. The other silver sets will likely not lose value b/ of being silver, so I only get these.

I do not plan to be around for it, but I have a feeling the 100th anniversary of JFKs assassination might spike an interest in the 2012 S proof sets. So I got a couple for my grandson when these halves were only 30.00 each. They are ~100.00+ now.


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 Posted 12/05/2013  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add david29 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I consider proof sets as just something to collect. I have bought a lot of them, but I am not planning on making any profit on them, EVER. They are just something that I can buy every year and make a full run collection. They are nice to look at and share with people but for investment potential you can do a lot better.
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 Posted 12/05/2013  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
many proof sets aren't worth much so I'm guessing your buying them because you collect them....
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They are nice to look at and share with people




I have been thinking of making a frame for some and hanging them on the wall. If they were ever taken, no big loss. Easy to replace and not worth much money - but a "WOW" look to them.

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 Posted 12/08/2013  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add welder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I think the Mint should do away with the clad proof sets and keep the silver sets.

I have consecutive silver proof sets from 1999 to present. I do plan on acquiring silver proof sets from 1992-98 along with 1970 & earlier. The proof sets from 1971 to 1991 have no interest to me.

Recently, I have noticed a glut of proof and mint sets on ebay. This could be contributing to the decrease of value for these coin sets, too much supply and not enough demand. Yet in 5 years from now, these sets may be hard to find.

I would not consider clad proof sets an investment. If someone is going buy proof sets, spend the few extra bucks and buy the silver proof set. At least you are getting some PM.
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 Posted 12/08/2013  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Duke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I'm trying to collect one of each issues (not silver). I will pick them up at auction (if I get them cheap). I definitely won't get them at initial release, wait a few years and get them under release price.

They are nice too look at and I used to get them from the mint when I was a kid.

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