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Valued Member
United States
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I recently acquired a pair of 1893-S Morgan silver dollars. In the past I have always purchased them slabbed from NGC/PCGS/ANACS/ICG. This is my first time purchasing this date/mint raw. I know there is only one die used for this date, I know about common altering with 1883-S, etc. I worry because the fakes from China are not as sloppy/obvious as they once were. I am by no means an expert, though am not new to the hobby. Before I cannot get a refund I wanted experts opinion on these coins. Thank you in advance for your opinions/responses, as they are welcomed and much appreciated friends. I am on the fence on these coins.   
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
4944 Posts |
Both fakes.
The date is a dead giveaway (The Numbers Don't look Correct).
Edited by Canadian-Banknotes
11/12/2013 7:40 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I started by checking the date position against the only obverse die and it is wrong on both of your examples. It is lucky for us the chinese have not paid attention to the fine details, YET.
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Valued Member
 United States
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I was thinking it was to good to be true, especially for what I paid, though this was an internet purchase. These will be returned. Thank you for the replies gentlemen. Now the joy of contacting the seller, who has perfect feedback and informing him of my intent to return for a full refund. Nothing like the drive of shame to the post office to return a cleaned/altered/fake coin. At least I can get a refund. Again, thank you!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Valued Member
United States
175 Posts |
Canadian -- I see exactly what you are talking about. Thank you. I always seem to learn the most when I get burned on a deal, haha. Upon further inspection, yes, they both have weak details compared to my other Morgans. Hopefully one day I will be able to notice the better fakes from photos prior to going through with a deal. Oh ebay... |
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Valued Member
United States
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Dave -- I agree, it is only a matter of time before they have the technology to make them exact. Some of the fake PCGS (chinese) slabs are pretty close, though a trained eye can spot the fakes. It is a shame, hurts the hobby.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Uup both fakes. Alteast you can return them.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree, date is a give away.
I also don't like that mark on the reverse, on both coins.
Looks like a raised dot, under the "N" in united.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Looks like a raised dot, under the "N" in united. Good Eye |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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After you get your $$$ back, if you do....this person should be reported to the proper authorities.
Edited by 1893S
11/12/2013 11:49 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Agree, fake.
They both have that cast appearance.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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They both have that cast appearance.  |
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United States
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Not a chance. There are "dead giveaway" attributes for 1893-S Morgans, and this causes me to plead with you to learn things like those attributes before you again attempt to purchase coins like raw 1893-S's.
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