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 Posted 11/13/2013  5:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I know I am only a new member and I do not want to overstep the mark, but.....

When posting coin pics it really is a must if you have the means to weigh the coin and to measure the diameter.
Weight tells us a great deal about a coin, such as denomination,whether its barbarous, AE type ie. AE2 AE3 etc. and also when a coin flan looks sharp edged whether the coin is complete or maybe just a bad strike.
Diameter is equally important and should be measured from 9 to 3 oclock on the clock face when the obverse is upright. Where flans are very uneven, it can be done at 12 to 6 as well as a small oblong badly struck coin can appear much larger from description alone.
I know not everyone has a set of precision scales or a balance, but we all have access to a ruler.
And to lighten the mood........some fruit
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 Posted 11/13/2013  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I generally don't post the weight or measurement unless there is something about the weight or measurement that makes the coin special like my 3 Pig coins.

For identification purposes yes weight and measurement is greatly helpful but I generally don't notice it unless for the reason above. I just like pictures of awesome coins. I am not a scholar...yet!
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 Posted 11/13/2013  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ive been meaning to get scales...been waiting for Xmas! I too only post diameter when it is of particular interest.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree WB, when identifying a coin its essential in my opinion and when selling a coin can be even more so from the buyers perspective....but when admiring a coin or showing one of interest perhaps less so. I am no scholar by any shape of the word, and like you I love pictures of 'awesome' coins.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ive been meaning to get scales...been waiting for Xmas! I too only post diameter when it is of particular interest.


I got some scales for under a tenner off Amazon Ben. They supposedly weigh to 0.01g which is accurate enough for my purposes. I can send you a link if you want.

The price goes up considerably if you want accuracy to 0.001g
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 Posted 11/13/2013  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A balance which gives 1 tenth of a gramme measurements is easily good enough.
To add to my previous posts, when buying online the weight and diameter gives you an immediate 'feel' for the coin and generally the heavier coins, certainly the gallics will be better struck and less 'smudged' on one side. by measuring your own coins and weighing them, you get used to 'typical' weights and can therefore be more selective when buying. Its only a small advantage, but sometimes its enough.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dwayne8625 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is obviously a considerable advantage to have as much information as possible to help identify the coins. After all the more that is known, the more others can help, and vice versa. But I don't see the big deal about it, sometimes you may not have it.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its no big deal , just helpful as it makes it quicker if its your coin and you want an ID .... and helpful for the reasons I have stated above, but for some I am sure it matters not either way.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see posting weights and measures on coins that are not commonly see here such as some of the classical Greeks and East empire coins. Roman empire coins for the most part conform to a weight standard for each type so weights are measures aren't as important. Roman provincial coins are an excepting where there weight and size does help with identification.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i purchases a little cheapie jewelry scale for my coins, I like to weigh them personally, but don't know how much it adds really. I did the id on most of my coins successfully before I had the scale. I have found it as evidence that a coin is real or fake several times however. when I'm buying a coin it sure is a stat I look for.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a "Frankford Arsenal" DS-750 reloading scale that is electronic and is easily set to be permanently in grams. It weighs to .01 grams accurately (I have weights to check it). I much prefer it to the $140 scale that I bought years ago because was recommended by CNG. You can find the DS-750 new for $30. It only goes to 50 grams, but I bet you don't have many coins over 50 grams!
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 Posted 11/14/2013  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CasualDave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking about getting a scale meant for reloading ammo. A good one will run around $90, and is accurate to 0.1 grains(0.006 grams). Most come with a few calibrating weights. I'm just not sure if they only read out in grains, might get tiring having to convert all the time.
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 Posted 11/14/2013  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anything cheap from ebay is good, get a cheap one which weighs to tenth of a gramme...loads for sale as all the hash heads buy them.
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 Posted 11/14/2013  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I once bought a coin of early Ivan IV as a kopek. Was pretty sure it was a kopek (and not a denga, which I thought I already had), and, somewhat unfortunately, paid kopek money (the purchase was unofficial enough that I wouldn't dare try a return, and the amount was tiny enough that I didn't care much anyway).
Had it for a few weeks, then decided to weigh it... ended up as 0.32g, which is pretty clearly a denga (kopek should be 0.68g). Guess I was a bit unlucky (I did get a real kopek of that type later).

Oh, yeah, the scales. I don't have a photo (yet), but it's a pretty funny piece: dating from the Soviet 1960s, it was held together with knots on long-torn strings (apparently well before it got to me), and required particularly careful balancing because the empty weighing cups were unbalanced by something like 0.03 grams (thanks to the knots being somewhat unevenly spaced).


...As for sizes, if I post something about any of my coins (especially if I hadn't fully identified it yet), I always try to mention the diameter (or both of the sizes if the coin is oblong, like the Russian wire pieces).
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 Posted 11/14/2013  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I for one like the fact that there are weights and measures in a post, I like the added info.
I'm agree with augustus1, I have the same reloading scale, I reload lots of ammo,very accurate, comes in grains or up to 50 grams, their inexpensive about $30,also have a 12lb. scale that weighs in grams for anything over 50 grams..
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 Posted 11/14/2013  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yeoldecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree wholeheartedly..... very helpful to include when asking for ID.
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