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Wow! Double Struck 1898 Ih 1c!!

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Is this real I do not think it could be fake I dont see how someone could strike on the coin and it be facing the same way. The reverse is just the same and it is even with the front of the coin am I wrong? The letters also struck on the rim that would have moved also with the ih head.

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I'm not an expert when it comes to Indian Heads. What sticks out to me is that the Date is absolutely fine and the rest of the coin seems doubled. Same with the shield on the reverse.

I'd look at a "normal coin" and see the spacing and normal location of the "One Cent" on the reverse, and try to match it up each set of the "one cent" on the potential variety coin.

It could very well be original, but to me, something seems funky about the coin. I'm too busy to dig for errors like this on coppercoins.com, so you may have to research if the year had issues like this.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larrytw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If a coin is not ejected in time from die a second strike will occur.There can be multiple strikes.Love to own 1 like this.
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Found it in a back of really bad cull indian 1 cent
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 Posted 11/13/2013  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Trickworm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Certainly looks real to me. I would say genuine.
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I hope it's real. That would be amazing!

Hopefully the error coin experts can enlighten us!
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Looks real but better get some expert opinions. Good luck
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The second strike is definitely questionable in my opinion. It's an extremely weak strike and although that itself isn't conclusive, it does raise some concerns. I'm not as proficient with diagnosing weak second strikes as others, so I will wait to read their opinion.


Edit: Just to add, I'm looking at it some more and leaning towards fake second strike. Still, I will await someone more familiar with an item like this.
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11/13/2013 10:17 pm
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experts needed here..
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Absolutely genuine to me. Seems that there were not that many or if at all any coin an or error coin catalogues so so its not like a mint employee up and decided to make an error and throw it into the bag like they do now.
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I...

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I am the first to call out a coin which has a plausible explanation which doesn't include anything happening at the Mint. This one? I just_don't_know. We need more horsepower here.
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Interesting!
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i have 3 double struck Indian cents and have seen a bunch more. All I can say is that mine don't look like this, and I haven't seen one that looks like this.
The details on the denticles is interesting.
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i just looked through the single most extensive collection of Indian cent errors that is online (not sure I can post links here, just google "The Robert Lutzel Error Collection - A date set of Indian cent Errors" and check through the PDF. Tons of examples of double struck Indian cents and none look like this one.
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You may want to contact Rick Snow on this one.I am far from a pro but it just doesn't look right to me.http://indiancent.wikispaces.com/1898
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I see no reason at this time to question its authenticity. The second strike is unusually weak, but a weak second strike following a first strike of normal strength is well-documented (though rare) among recent issues. You can tell only so much from a photo; the coin should be closely examined under a microscope. There are plenty of excellent counterfeit second strikes that look quite convincing from a distance.
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