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The only thing I do not like is there are hairlines visible under halogen light. They show in the pics, but not to the extent that they do under 10X and rotated under halogen to catch them.
I know nothing about hairlines, can anyone comment as to how these might hold back the grade?
Edited by Jon K
11/14/2013 6:51 pm
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The coin looks like a MS-63 maybe MS-64 but your comments about how much worse they look in hand is making me wonder if it got a details grade with maybe surface hairlines or wiped labeled as the reason. Check the beginning of the ANA grading guide where they have the general description of each grade(p.24-27 in the 6th edition) since it does mention briefly for the MS grade, the amount of hairlines that can be expected for the grade. |
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I moved some lights around to emphasise the hairlines. In hand, the coin is just spectacular. The hairlines are not noticable unless you squint hard and turn it just right. Once you get your 10-X eyewear on is when the the hairlines jump out. There are a couple hits on the eagles leg, or I would at first glance call this a 66. With those hits on the REV I would call it a 65. Again at first glance, as the hairlines are hard to spot without some optical help. I will reveal this afternoon. I will say that it got a "no problem" grade.  |
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Oh well, I thought I might get a few more players before the reveal. I seriously considered cracking this one out and sending it to PCGS for the 64 that I think it deserves. But I understand better now how devastating these **** hairlines are to the grade and I suppose I will leave it where it is. Maybe when I am sending in something anyway I will see if they might cross it. I had a good day last time I sent stuff in, who knows maybe it would gain a point. Thanks to everyone who played along!!  Edited by Jon K
11/16/2013 11:37 am
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Sorry for digging this old thread up, but I pulled this coin out and studied on it some more.
Those hairlines are so very light . . . . . I bet a bit of tone would obscure them to the point that they would become undetectable.
Is there some honorable way to store the coin (in slab) so that it would tone over a period of months or years?
Or is even to speak of such blasphemy?!? Delving into the world of doctoring!
What say the gallery?
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If you ask me, that is a very under graded coin. Maybe you should consider reslabing it or sending it to PCGS.
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Actually, I am putting together a submission to PCGS to try to send this week.
I suppose I could ask for a crossover at grade.
It would only cost me $20 for the grade, $8.00 for the submission category (the only crossover in the bunch), and $24.00 for the return shipping all by it's lonesome. Oh, and 1% of the value.
Or I suppose I could crack it out and save the $40.00 in BS charges.
Scary to crack it out . . . . anyone think I would get a no grade?
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Based on your spectacularly accurate second obverse image, I don't see this one getting a Details grade from PCGS. In fact, I see you building a little value on this semi-key (in grade).
It's a chance, but I'd crack it.
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No way that deserves a 62 IMO.
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I have looked at one or two Washingtons in my life, and based on your photos that coin looks like an easy 64 with a good shot at a 65
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Jon K I would crack that slab. I personally thought MS-65 that NGC might give an MS-64 based upon the huge difference bewteen 64-and 65 on a 36-D. Even after you shot the second picture that highlighted the hairlines I still thought it would get an MS-65. But MS-62 no no and no. If I were to grade it and MS-62 the only way I could do it would be to loupe the coin first and focus on the hairlines and minimizing the luster and eye appeal. So I think that's how they arrive at that one. What a shame they butchered a nice coin.
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Well, she is out!! Going to PCGS next week. That is the first time I cracked a $600+ coin!! Didn't feel so good . . . . Will report back in a few weeks!!  |
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