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2011 1$ Commemorative Coin (Gallipoli Battle)

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I came across an article on the Internet regarding 2011 1$ commemorative coin (Gallipoli battle) with the reference to the design flaw when apparently WW2 long rifle was depicted vs, WW1 rifle.
here is the link

2011-1$-Commemorative-Coin-Gallipoli-Battlehttp://numismaster.com/ta/numis/Art...icleId=20812
I need help to identify exact model of the rifle depicted on the referenced coin for the article in the local numismatic newspaper.

My research revealed that Australian forces used during WW1 the following rifles: Lee-Enfields (also known as 303) and Rifle No 5 MkI. None of the rifles used during the WW2 (by Australian forces) matches the image on the coin.

Would you be able to advise the make and model of the rifle depicted on the coin?
Thank you in advance,
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I suspect that the rifle depicted on the coin may be somewhat of an anachronism, and is a later model made after WW1 had ended. It matches pictorially to a Rifle No.4 mk.1.

Rifle model 4's marks 1- 111 were used during WW2.
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Thank you
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it sure looks like a .303 Lee Enfield, No 4 Mk1 (barrel sticking out past forestock) . Which was in service through the second world war by all British and commonwealth troops.. Definitely including australian troops.


But this rifle wasn't issued until 1939.. So it's use in WW1 would be pretty odd.. I'm sure the artist made a slight mistake... Really the only difference thats visable in a pic of the two, would be the longer barrel of the No 4 opposed to the flush barrel of the previous models, such as those used in WW1.
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I would say that it is the designer's (of the coin) hybrid. It looks like a Lee Enfield No.4 MK 1, but the barrel is to long and the bolt handle is at the wrong angle. Definitely not an MK ll either, barrel to short. Either way both models were put into service well after the battle of Gallipoli.
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The only one I can find that even looks similar but I dont see the name of it..I doubt this will help much but here it is anyway.
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/20...ation-chart/

another one..
http://www.classicammunitionaustral...photos/?id=7
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the rifle at a glance I believe to be a MK1 Lee Enfield P14 which stands for pattern 1914 . certainly suits the period
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Does an oversight like this have any impact on the value of the coin?
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Does an oversight like this have any impact on the value of the coin?


To me the current silver spot price would have more bearing on the value of this coin that the type of rifle depicted on it
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