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Awhile back I acquired an obsolete Capital Plastics holders for the 40% silver Eisenhower dollars with openings for both the proof and circulation strikes. It came together rather quickly once I got a mind to get it done. My favorite piece is the proof 1972-S which is what is called a blue Ike. It was cracked out of its original government packaging. The 1971-S proof had started to turn blue on the obverse also.

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The coins and that holder are a nice combo.

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Nice set! Just one comment; The '72-S Proof isn't a Blue Ike, it's a Brown Ike. They were called Blue/Brown after the color of the package they came in. The proofs came in the brown boxes with the red insert and black holder, while the BS's came in blue envelopes. I've never heard the term "Blue Ike" used to describe a hazed/hazing proof.

I'd love to get my hands on one of those nice, old holders.
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Very nice acquisition.
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Fade to Black for your information the term "Blue Ike" has nothing to do with the color of the box it was packaged in. Yes, proof Ikes were issued in brown boxes and circulation strikes were issued in blue envelopes but once the coin is out of that packaging it loses any reference to the box it came in. It has everything to do with the color of the toning which it achieved while in that packaging. That term is one that has been around for years and just because you have never heard it, oh well.

Why is it that in every one of your posts on other members' threads you have to always come up with something negative to say about their coins?

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Ummm, Gyrene, it certainly DOES apply to the packaging the coins originally came in, regardless of whether they are in it still or not.

The proofs came in the brown boxes. The uncs came in the blue envelopes. That does not change just because they are no longer in those packages. The term has always referred to the packaging.

That aside, very nice set.
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Fade to Black for your information the term "Blue Ike" has nothing to do with the color of the box it was packaged in. Yes, proof Ikes were issued in brown boxes and circulation strikes were issued in blue envelopes but once the coin is out of that packaging it loses any reference to the box it came in. It has everything to do with the color of the toning which it achieved while in that packaging. That term is one that has been around for years and just because you have never heard it, oh well.

Why is it that in every one of your posts on other members' threads you have to always come up with something negative to say about their coins?

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I complimented the coins and the holder, I think it's quite cool, and I always love me some silver Ikes. I corrected your terminology. Please don't start lashing out just because I attempted to educate you on what the vast majority of the numismatic world considers a "blue Ike". If you don't believe me, check out this thread started here less than a week ago;

https://goccf.com/t/162698

I didn't even respond! Have a nice day, Ed.

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Although I am certainly no expert on Ike's, I too have heard and seen the difference between Blue (UNC Silver) and Brown (Proof Silver) Ikes regarding to the original Gov't packaging.
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Nice set!
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very nice! I love these holders as well, I've never seen an Ike one. One of my LCS's had the 3 for the whole Morgan series (all dates/mints), it was unbelievable, and complete with extremely nice Morgan's... He was in the process of taking out the Morgan's and labeling them in flips and then was going to sell me the 3 holders for quite cheap... But very unfortunately he passed away and the store was closed...

Very unfortunate indeed, he was a great man, many of my coins came from there as he always gave me a great deal. I also had a red toned (looked like a sunset over gold) South African gold sovereign on hold for me to pick up the following week... Needless to say I never got that either.. I left my number with the people inventorying the store, it was all to be sold (he ran the store and all processes went to a charity!!) the people from the charity said they'd find them and call me but I called numerous times and never heard back..
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Okay, everyone to their corners.

First, in the Eisenhower dollar world the Blue and Brown terms always have and always will refer the original packaging (whether the coins is still housed within or not). Sure, you can have blue toning, but that is not relevant here.

Second, and more importantly, this set is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.

Well done, Ed. Well done.
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I won't hold my breath for an apology, Ed.

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Nice set of ikes you got.

I won't show off too much but will be posting mine in my thread today.
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Fade to Black for your information the term "Blue Ike" has nothing to do with the color of the box it was packaged in. Yes, proof Ikes were issued in brown boxes and circulation strikes were issued in blue envelopes but once the coin is out of that packaging it loses any reference to the box it came in. It has everything to do with the color of the toning which it achieved while in that packaging. That term is one that has been around for years and just because you have never heard it, oh well.

Why is it that in every one of your posts on other members' threads you have to always come up with something negative to say about their coins?

I just started a thread about this.
He was just trying to help.
based off several professional numismatists replies, the term has everything and ONLY to do with the packaging.

This CCF is about correct information, and Family.
Let's not let it stray away from that.
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*** Staff Edit ****

This is not how we do things at CCF. Consider this a stern warning. Next one will earn a vacation.
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Not to feed the fire , but just for FYI. I think Ed likes what he collects and like the rest of us is fully aware of what he collects. And he has some very .....very nice sets.

While I enjoy your posts, Fade to Black, and find you a very knowledgeable collector , always willing to help. It does seem that your penchant for voicing opinions on Ed's coins seems to fuel this obvious feud.(totally remaining neutral here) I am also in a position where I just cannot agree with or get along with another member. So I stay out of his threads and do not comment on his coins or his opinions. It is no big deal for me, it is a large forum with many.......many members. Just an observation ....... and a little unsolicited advise for other members.

And so as not to hijack the thread. What a beautiful set Ed .......... keep them coming.
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