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Tidy House Promotional Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 11/23/2013  11:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Man, I haven't been around for a while...I miss coming here!

I searched the forum and found only one other mention of "Tidy House" coins in a very old thread. I'm not a huge fan of Morgan dollars, but I saw this ensemble yesterday at my LCS and couldn't resist picking up. Just thought I'd share and see if anyone else has come across one of these. I couldn't find much about Tidy House on Google, maybe someone else has some information.

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Judging by the information on the holder, I'd image this packet would have to have been assembled 1965-1970.

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I wish this reorder form was dated, but since it is not, maybe I still have 30 days to place a new order!

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I've never owned a heavily toned coin like this before, but I can seen the appeal now that I have one in hand. It is fascinating to observe the cartwheel luster on what at first appears to be a dull coin.

My dealer recommended keeping the coin stored separately in a 2x2 or else it would continue to tone. I'd imagine that what constitutes pleasing toning is a matter of opinion, but I'd be interested to hear members' thoughts on whether or not to place the coin back in the holder and envelope and then store it all in a dry place or store it separately.

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-Chris
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 Posted 11/24/2013  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I doubt that it will continue to tone, I bet the active elements in the storage medium have dissipated to a point where any additional toning would be negligible at best.. Believe it or not, your coin appears to be average for a Tidy House Morgan. They generated some insane toners. I own at least one example that came from one, and another I believe likely came from a Tidy House set, but I can't be sure.

Looks like a 62/63, tough to tell how attractive the toning really is from your images.
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11/24/2013 12:04 am
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 Posted 11/24/2013  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info and you're correct, the dealer had it marked MS-63. The toning is nothing special: no rainbow coloration, just some greens and yellows in random areas. I just enjoy the additional story elements of this coin's life. I imagine it must have sat in a vault for 75 years, then spent another 50 years in a cardboard holder inside an envelope...come to think of it, maybe that really isn't all that exciting if you're the coin!
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 Posted 11/24/2013  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a real value-added coin just as it is, with the proven provenance. If the coin is easily removable, throw it into an Airtite to arrest the toning, but if not just let it ride.
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 Posted 11/24/2013  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Left exposed to the air, it absolutely will continue to tone. If you want to arrest the toning at it's present stage, then SsuperDave's advice is correct.

But ... I have an 1847 Seated quarter that's just great looking, and the coin is dark overall, with fields that dance with blue and russet colors. It came out of an attic in New Hampshire during a remodel last year. I love it. It's one of my favorite coins.

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 Posted 11/24/2013  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unholyroller to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's try and whittle down the date this bundle was sent...
>1963... zip codes in use
> or = 1965.... 40% Kennedys in circulation.
<1979.... States that "all coins are over 75 years old" and 1904 being the last regular year
<1971.... Does not mention Eisenhower dollars
<1970.... published "retail" for common date Morgans is $4.00
<1968.... Tidy House acquired by Arm & Hammer
1965.... Card quotes "last year retail price of UNC" @ $2.50 which equals published retail in 65
1967.... silver sees first spike in spot price since 1962 (in reference to the card stating silver is up 20%)
Mid 1968-1971..... silver value is in state of decline which wouldn't match with advertisement language.

Based on this data...I would suspect that this was published/sent towards the end of 1967/early 1968




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11/24/2013 11:32 am
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Thanks for that analysis, unholyroller! I would never have thought of some of those things. I'll add that time line to my other notes about this coin. It's also nice to know what ultimately became of Tidy House Products.

SsuperDdave, the provenance is definitely what attracted me to this coin! I certainly think it does adds some additional value. I currently have the coin in an air tight, and I plan to store everything together in a larger envelope. I might make a display someday and have everything framed somehow.

Cool find on your Seated quarter, Chance. I'd love to see it if you have a photo! I'm sometimes jealous of the east coast folks. I've heard many a story of an old coin found in the basement, attice or wall of a colonial-era building.
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 Posted 11/24/2013  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrMorgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
25 UNC Morgans for $64.95

You should mail in the form and see if they will honor it!
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 Posted 09/29/2014  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frankcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the date of the repeated offer June 11, 1967. The first offer "last year" sent out tens of thousands.

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I wonder if they mailed anyone a scarface. Recently my Dad gave me my old "A Guide Book of United States coins" 18th edition 1965 By R.S. Yeoman. We were collecting pennies when I was a kid always looking for that 1955 doubled die; never found one. I had forgotten about that book after all these years. Looking at coin prices back then compared to now; all I can say is I wish I knew then what I know now.

Very cool thread thanks for sharing.
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Looking at coin prices back then compared to now; all I can say is I wish I knew then what I know now.

And fifty years from now collectors will look back at the 2015 RedBook prices and say "I wish I knew then what I know now." Well people this is now, you've got your chance, the same chance they had back in 65.
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I absolutely love all of the additional elements that accompany your coin Chris. It's like history inside of history. What a great read! Thanks for sharing, and best regards on your future endeavors.
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neat stuff
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And fifty years from now collectors will look back at the 2015 RedBook prices and say "I wish I knew then what I know now." Well people this is now, you've got your chance, the same chance they had back in 65.


Probably very true. But I doubt I'll be around to do any coin picking 50 years from now :) Hopefully I can get one of my kids/grandkids interested in coins. So far no luck.
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I wonder what would happen if you still use that order form to get morgans for bargain $3 each. Order as much as it allows
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