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I have a Morgan dollar that on both sides and for the entire surfaces exhibits these marks as in the photo. They are perfectly parallel, very uniform in nature and under powerful magnification, I've determined they are marks that go into the coin (they are not in relief). Are they some kind of mint 'roller' marks, or are they cleaning marks? I realize they can't be die polishing marks. Would this coin then get 'bodybagged' at PCGS. Any help would be appreciated.  Edited by doubleeagle59
11/24/2013 5:54 pm
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Could you post some picture of the whole coin?
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It's over the entire coin, exactly the way it's in the first picture.
It's in both the fields and on the high relief areas.
Edited by doubleeagle59
11/24/2013 6:00 pm
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It probably existed that way on the silver planchet before the strike, since they appear to be completely uniform and don't show much change in direction. They look like striations or maybe they call them Stria, I forget. The coin gets the majority of its grade via "eye appeal". Does this take away from the eye appeal, some would say yes - but only if it was seem at 5 to 10x power. Otherwise it shouldn't affect grading. I don't know about the body bag, I don't see a reason to give one, As long as all the feathers are there to prove its a morgan, and you can read the date and potential mint mark, they should slab it. Only question is, will they consider it an error and amplify that on the label? Its hard to tell. ANACS might add the condition to the label. You may want to give them a call and ask, or show them a pic and ask if that fall under a particular category. Take a close look at the cheek / jaw line and see if it appears that these existed on the coin prior to strike, they should flow and rise vice the cheek being scraped. I don't know if VAM world would have anything on this or not. http://www.vamworld.com/Morgan+VAMs+By+DateEdited by Collector-Corner
11/24/2013 6:12 pm
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Planchet Striations that occurred on the draw bench when preparing the silver strips before punching out the round planchet.
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Planchet striations for sure. You can see how weak the strike was, that's why they're more severe. They won't affect the grade, or shouldn't, besides lowering the eye appeal.
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If they are planchet striations, then they should be like minor grooves (the striations 'eat' into the coin), rather than die polish lines that would leave lines in relief on the coin.
Is this correct?
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Eh... die polish lines are raised, slightly. Planchet striations are going to be incuse if viewed under high power magnification, from what I understand. Thats why a very well struck Morgan won't show them, metal flow will eliminate them.
If you think about how the dies strike the coin, the places where pressure is greatest (The fields on nearly all US types) will hardly show striations unless they're quite severe, and in that case, you can probably argue that it should be defined as a planchet flaw.
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New Orleans coin, right?  |
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Yes...
1892-O in (I believe) very nice MS condition, except for the 'roller lines'.
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definitely striations, it would not be body bagged, that is not damage, but how it was made.
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